Chef's Choice Recipes

Gourmet soft-scrambled eggs with stridolo/collejas & stinging nettle

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If you’re searching for the ultimate gourmet soft-scrambled egg recipe, you’re in the right place! Use Chef David Porras’s tips and tricks to make the best soft-scrambled eggs you’ve ever tasted. Add unusual greens like stridolo and stinging nettle to take the recipe to the next level. 


Soft-scrambled eggs can be gourmet food.

The goal of our Chef’s Choice series is to educate and inspire your inner home chef while introducing you to amazing, unusual ingredients. 

For this month’s recipe, Chef David Porras selected two of our favorite early spring greens from a list of potential ingredient options we offered: stridolo and stinging nettle. (More on these ingredients below.) 

After tasting the recipe he created, we immediately realized this recipe article should focus as much on the soft-scrambled eggs he made as the two greens used. Why? 

We raise egg-laying ducks, so eggs are the staple protein in our diet. Suffice it to say, we know a thing or two about how to cook eggs, including scrambled eggs. Or at least we thought we did. 

However, we’ve never thought about scrambled eggs as gourmet food or something we’d excitedly serve to dinner guests. All that changed after tasting Chef David’s soft scrambled eggs.

They were utterly delicious with a silky smooth texture and intense umami flavors beyond what we thought possible. 

One spoonful of Chef David's soft-scrambled eggs with wilted greens will help you realize that eggs can be gourmet food.

One spoonful of Chef David’s soft-scrambled eggs with wilted greens will help you realize that eggs can be gourmet food.

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    Foraged Recipes

    Maple-candied morel mushrooms with spruce needle-whipped cream

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    Looking for a morel mushroom dessert recipe? You’ll love maple-candied morel mushrooms. And you can fancy the recipe up a notch by also making spruce needle whipped cream, sweetened and flavored with the leftovers from your candied morel pan. 


    Morel mushrooms… for dessert?

    In case you”re thinking, “Mushroom candy! What the _?” Allow us to explain… 

    Yes, maple-candied morel mushrooms are real. Yes, they're delicious. If you make them, we bet you'll love them too.

    Yes, maple-candied morel mushrooms are real. Yes, they’re delicious. If you make them, we bet you’ll love them too.

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      How to make fermented tea (not kombucha)

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      In this article, you’ll find out how to make a simple, homemade “wild” fermented tea from scratch that offers caffeine, delicious flavor, probiotic benefits, and tongue-tingling effervescence!


      Table of contents: 

      Use the links below to jump to the section you’re interested in or drink up all the interesting information in the whole article!

      I. Two caffeine-producing plants tested/used: Tea Camellia and Yaupon holly
      II. What is wild fermentation?
      III. Recipe creation, methodology, and taste test results
      IV. How much caffeine is in this wild fermented tea?
      V. Jump to top fermented tea recipes

      Tea offers numerous health benefits. However, you should avoid consuming too much caffeine each day and also avoid consuming caffeine within 6 hours before bedtime. Otherwise, you’ll sacrifice sleep quality, which then has negative health consequences. Doh!   

      There are also numerous health benefits from consuming fermented foods and drinks. It just so happens we love tea and we love fermented foods and beverages. Thus, we set out to create our own delicious homegrown, homemade fermented tea that could give us our morning caffeine boost while also serving as a probiotic. After numerous kitchen experiments and taste tests, we’re excited to share the results with you so you can make your own fermented tea from store-bought or homegrown ingredients.   

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        Marita
        April 28, 2025 at 5:27 pm

        a friend told me you can get yeast from yaupon to make bread. have you heard of this?

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          Aaron von Frank
          April 29, 2025 at 2:05 pm

          That’s a new one for us, Marita. We’ve heard of capturing wild yeasts from fruits and certain tree bark in order to make bread, but have not heard of using yaupon in that way. Sounds interesting! If you try it, please report back to let us know how things turn out?

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        Kayla
        February 19, 2024 at 2:01 am

        Hi! This recipe sounds yummy and I’m excited to try! Thanks for posting it and explaining the details and science behind everything. once question.

        You stated:When making wild fermentations, you’re promoting the proliferation of beneficial/desirable strains of microbes you want present by manipulating factors such as:

        pH levels,
        oxygen levels,
        SALINITY, and
        temperature.

        Obviously there’s not salt in the recipe (yuck) but how are you controlling the bad bacteria without it in a 15 day fermentation process. Are the good bacteria just that prolific in this recipe that nothing further is needed to mitigate the harmful bacteria?

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          Aaron von Frank
          February 19, 2024 at 12:47 pm

          Yes, the other three factors (combined with the added sugar which gets yeasts super active) inhibit the growth of pathogenic bacteria.
          Obviously, hygiene is important too, aka using a clean jar, clean spoon when stirring, etc. We’ve never had a ferment of this nature go bad in well over a dozen years of making probably hundreds if not thousands of them.

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        Mark F.
        November 4, 2023 at 8:50 am

        Can you describe the flavor of fermented tea? Is it vinegary like Kombucha? Or a milder sourness like a beer or wine? Or does it have that funky ‘barnyard’ aesthetic that wild yeast gives?

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          Aaron von Frank
          November 5, 2023 at 9:41 pm

          Hi Mark! The fermented tea recipes in this article are not at all sour or vinegary like kombucha. They’re also not funky. Rather they’re quite delicious with subtle and unique flavors that are pretty hard to describe. The flavor of the honey shows up strongly as well, so if you don’t like honey, you could go with an alternative like organic cane sugar or maple syrup to get the microbes roaring. Perhaps do a small pint jar test batch to see if you like the fermented tea, then go from there.

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      Geese

      How to introduce new geese to your flock

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      Geese are social animals that thrive in flocks. However, adding new geese to your existing flock requires planning and management in order to prevent serious fights or injury. In this article, I’ll detail tips and considerations for integrating new geese into your flock.

      No icy hearts here! In this article, you'll find out how to make sure your new geese receive a warm reception from your existing flock.

      No icy hearts here! In this article, you’ll find out how to make sure your new geese receive a warm reception from your existing flock.

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        Nikki
        April 29, 2023 at 9:10 am

        I have a batch of 3 day old goslings, and 3 week old ducklings. Can I coop/raise them together when they get closer in size? Or does the goose nursery and duck nursery need to be kept separate?

        • Reply
          Aaron von Frank
          May 1, 2023 at 12:00 pm

          Hi! I just spoke with MJ (the author) about your question. We both agree that in your situation, you’re perfectly fine raising your goslings and ducklings together so long as there is ample room for them all in the nursery. Your goslings will quickly catch up to the size of your ducklings, probably within a week or so.

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        Michele Logan
        March 19, 2023 at 9:18 pm

        Hi there,

        I have a Pilgrim Guardian Goose for my flock of 7 ducks and 28 chickens. I want to add 9 additional ducklings, and two goslings (one female, one male) at the same time this Spring. Is one gander to two geese a good ratio? Thanks very much for your help.

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          Madia (MJ)
          March 20, 2023 at 3:19 pm

          Hi! One gander to two geese is a fine ratio. Even 2 ganders to one goose will work!

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      Recipes

      Recipe: Stinging nettle dip with labne

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      Use this simple, 15 minute stinging nettle dip recipe to turn young stinging nettle leaves and growth tips into a delicious dip you can use on crackers, sliced veggies, and more!


      Stinging nettle as gourmet food?

      Let’s get this bit out of the way first… As we wrote about in Why you should grow and use stinging nettle, stinging nettle isn’t merely edible, it’s quite delicious once you know how to use it. Not to mention, its high protein and nutrient density is far superior to pretty much any other leafy green out there. 

      We love edible weeds. Since stinging nettle (which grows as a perennial) is one of our favorite “weeds” to eat, we intentionally grow it in confined spaces in our garden. 

      A beautiful harvest of stinging nettle growth tips from our garden. We'll share stinging nettle harvesting tips and tricks below!

      A beautiful harvest of stinging nettle growth tips from a patch in our garden. We’ll share stinging nettle harvesting tips and tricks below!

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        Why you should grow and use stinging nettle

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        Common stinging nettle (Urtica dioica) is a perennial plant found in temperate regions throughout the world. Often maligned due to its painful “stings,” stinging nettle is actually a flavorful, high-protein superfood with a long history of use as a culinary, medicinal, and fiber plant.


        Table of contents:

        I. Stinging nettle: introduction and interesting facts
        II. How to treat a stinging nettle sting
        II. How to grow stinging nettle
        IV. How to harvest and eat stinging nettle – with recipes!
        V. Stinging nettle medicinal uses

        An early spring harvest basket full of stinging nettles at Tyrant Farms.

        An early spring harvest basket full of stinging nettles at Tyrant Farms.

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          Kat
          March 25, 2023 at 10:15 am

          False nettle (Boehmeria cylindrica) has most of the same benefits of stinging nettle, but without the sting. I grow it as a butterfly host plant.

          • Reply
            Aaron von Frank
            March 25, 2023 at 5:16 pm

            Thanks! How is Boehmeria cylindrica from an edibility standpoint? Late winter/early spring stinging nettle is one of our very favorite veggies.

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        Ducks

        Should you get male or female ducks or both?

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        Should you get male or female ducks or both? How many ducks should you get in your first flock?

        In this article, we’ll help get you the information you need to answer those questions well!

        Male or female ducks: choosing the right sexes and number of ducks for your backyard flock

        If you’re a newbie to the world of raising ducks, a quick lesson on terminology: 

        • mature male ducks are called “drakes”;
        • mature female ducks are called “ducks” or “hens.” 

        This terminology can get confusing when you’re referring to a group of male and female ducks as simply “ducks,” while simultaneously referencing drakes (males) and ducks (females). We’ll try to be crystal clear when referring to male or female ducks in this article so as not to cause confusion.   

        Our Welsh Harlequin duck ladies foraging and playing in the front yard garden on a summer evening.

        Our Welsh Harlequin duck ladies foraging and playing in the front yard garden on a summer evening.

        Below are seven questions you’ll want to answer BEFORE deciding: a) how many ducks to get in your backyard flock, and b) the number and ratio of male and female ducks in your first flock:

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          LJ
          July 1, 2023 at 8:05 pm

          I’m just wondering did your drakes fight even when they were penned up separately from the hens or only when they were all in together? I recently got ducklings from a friend who it turns out does not know how to correctly vent sex. I thought I was getting 3 hens but at 9 weeks based on their voices I’ve got 3 drakes. I have a lot of space and I’m really enjoying raising them so I’m going to try to get some females that I will buy from a hatchery where I will be certain of what I’m getting. I know it can be really hard to rehome drakes except to people who want them for meat so I think I will end up keeping them as well. I’m trying to figure out what kind of setup I will need to make that work. Thanks for your help!

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            Aaron von Frank
            July 3, 2023 at 1:55 pm

            Great question, LJ! Once we saw our drakes were fighting each other relentlessly and over-mating the girls, we put them in separate but adjoining pens during the day. The pens were made of temporary fencing. Almost immediately, they then started reaching through the pen fencing to fight each other, pulling out feathers, etc. So we then had to put enough distance between their pens so they couldn’t reach each other.

            We just got 6 additional ducks from a rescue operation, and one is a male Indian Runner. We’re not sure his age, but he is (at least for now) far less aggressive than any Welsh Harlequin drake we’ve had — or males of any other breed we’ve been around. But we can’t make any generalized claims about drake behavior variability by breed.

            We have heard from other people that if you have an all-drake flock, they’re not aggressive with each other since there aren’t females around to get worked up over and fight about. Since we’ve never had an all-drake flock, we can neither confirm nor deny that claim. Ha.
            So, if you plan to keep all three of your drakes, you *might* be able to keep them from fighting each other by NOT getting females.

            If you do get females, you’ll need to plan on having separate enclosures for your males during the day and partitions in your coop to keep them separated from each other at night. (Or separate coops, but that’s more expensive.)

            One bright spot is that drakes’ hormones diminish as sunlight levels decrease in the fall, so their behavior is not problematic from fall through late winter. Each year for the past 10 years, our drake is allowed to fully commingle with the flock during that time window, up until we notice his behavior starting to change as sunlight hours increase in late winter/early spring.

            Hope this helps and good luck!

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          Amanda C
          July 29, 2021 at 11:17 am

          My husband and I found 8 duck eggs in our backyard (from two wild mallards that would frequent our pool every spring). The momma duck left the eggs unattended for about a week when we had construction done. Long story short, we found the 8 cold eggs in our bushes by the pool, and a squirrel had already eaten 4 eggs (momma duck laid 12 eggs total). So we were forced to rescue the 8 eggs and ended up having a successful hatch of all 8! Since we weren’t expecting to get ducks for a while (my husband always wanted them/he thinks these eggs we found were a “gift from above”), we had to quickly research how to care for ducklings. We gave 3 of the ducks away to a friend who owns a farm with her own pet ducks and we currently have 5. We thought we had 2 boys and 3 girls, but one of the “girls” decided to develop a green head. We built a super safe duck hutch for them and are almost done building a 9ft round pond for them. (Hutch and pond will also have an enclosure built around them) We don’t want to give away any more ducks because we are super attached to all of them-so what is the best way to house them to keep them from hurting each other? Should we keep the two girls in the large hutch and buy 3 separate hutches for the boys? And do we only have to separate the drakes and hens during mating season or all year round?

          Hope these questions aren’t silly! Bear with us, we are new duck parents. And we don’t really care about egg production-these guys are first and foremost our pets. (Eggs are a bonus).

          Thanks in advance for any advice you could offer.

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            Aaron von Frank
            July 30, 2021 at 9:52 am

            Hi Amanda! Before diving into answering your questions, one thing you may want to consider is re-wilding your Mallards once they mature. They’re wild birds, not bred, and that may ultimately be what’s best for them. The other thing to consider is that unlike flightless bred ducks, Mallards can and will fly, which will make them more difficult to keep. If you decide to release them, you could then get a sexed run of bred ducks, and not have problems (which will make things far easier for you, especially as first time duck parents). Obviously, it’s your decision either way, just wanted to introduce that possibility for your consideration.

            With your male-to-female ratio (3:2), things are going to be a bit tricky, as you already know. Young drakes are going to be particularly aggressive for the majority of the year; they will calm down during the coldest months. Some people also say that drakes calm down as they age. We have an eight year old drake who is still very aggressive when his hormones are turned up.

            With multiple drakes, you can build a large single run and coop, but you’ll want to have partitions within the structures to keep them separated from each other – 1/2″ wire meshing or something similar so they can’t reach through and grab each other.

            Hope this helps, even if it’s not good news. 🙂

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          Zoe Mendez
          July 7, 2021 at 6:11 pm

          Hi Duck friends,
          So I thought I had two females. That’s what I ordered from Metzer farms but I know they’re not always correct. I have White Duclaire’s so they look identical.

          Penny, the bossy one has been more prone to charging our dogs from a few months old. Then at about 4 months old Penny started to mount Poppy. I read that sometimes two females will do this if there’s no Male in the flock so I didn’t worry too much.

          Now, at 6.5 months old the mounting is becoming more frequent. Poppy recently started limping due to a non-visible leg injury and her Ming feathers definitely look scuffed.

          We also have never found more than one egg per day since they started laying. The evidence seems to suggest we have a drake on our hands which is too much for our one female. Should we get another girl or two???

          Thanks so much for sharing all your knowledge. You guys are the best!

          I don’t know what I’d do with at your guidance!

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            Aaron von Frank
            July 8, 2021 at 7:12 am

            Hi Zoe! Thanks for your kind words. Sorry to hear you’re having difficulties there.

            Yes, female ducks will still have sex with each other – ours do it regularly even though we have a drake around. So that’s not an accurate way to determine their sex, as you said. One egg a day would seem like a pretty good indicator that you have a mixed-sex pair, but even that may not be definitive given their age (some ducks won’t start laying until Month 6 ) or if the duck has hormone or reproductive tract issues.

            Let’s try two other things to sex your ducks:
            1) Does Penny have curly drake feathers on the top base of her tail? If so, “she” is a male.
            2) Are both ducks’ voices the same? Female ducks are the loud honkers; drakes make a raspy blurp-blurp sound. If Penny doesn’t honk but instead makes raspy calls, “she” is a male.

            As for mating and/or over-mating injuries: if the ducks are having sex on the ground or in a shallow pool wherein the bottom duck (Penny) has to stand while being mounted, leg injuries are much more likely to happen. Our girls always go to their pool for sexy time, and the pool is deep enough so that they’re fully floating throughout each glorious escapade – thus no foot/leg injuries ensue. Is it possible for you to provide a deeper pool? Adding more ducks to your flock may help reduce Penny’s sexual focus on Poppy, but if the bottom ducks aren’t able to float during sexy time, the problem of leg injuries is likely to persist.

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          Susan
          April 25, 2021 at 7:13 pm

          Do you make your own duck diapers or are they available online?
          What a great idea!

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          Anthony David Sagastume
          October 4, 2020 at 3:50 am

          Can I get a single duck if I have other pets or does it need to be around other avian creatures??

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            Aaron von Frank
            October 5, 2020 at 10:24 pm

            Great question, thanks! We’d strongly recommend getting a second duck for the simple reason that ducks will be happiest if they have another member of their own species around. They can and will bond to another pet (or person) if that’s the only game in town, but there’s no love like duck love.

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              Vanessa
              October 8, 2020 at 1:35 pm

              I have two Drake Pekin ducks who are 20 weeks old. They are starting to become aggressive with me. Are they craving female company? Have I made a mistake having only males? I don’t really have the space for a large flock which is why I thought two would be fine.
              Advice please.

              • Aaron von Frank
                October 9, 2020 at 9:46 pm

                Hi Vanessa! Can you provide specific examples of what you mean by aggressive? Typically, with no females around, drakes should be relatively calm and make good pets. If they’ve never been in the company of a female duck, they don’t know what they’re missing. Given the information you’ve provided, it seems like a good idea for you to have two drakes, assuming you’re not interested in egg production.

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          Heidi
          September 16, 2020 at 9:50 pm

          Hi, we also learned the hard way that the mating between the male and female duck lasts through the night, so we are separating them to see how that goes. My hope is when they are out foraging in the yard, they can be civil and the male will not try and make up for “lost time.” My question is, how much time does your drake spend on his own during the day? We do have two coops we could separate them in. They are a nice pair but the over-mating is really too much for our female’s neck, and we don’t have the space for more females. Thanks.

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            Aaron von Frank
            September 18, 2020 at 1:30 pm

            There are seasonal variations in a drake’s libido, as well as variations by age. A younger drake will be much more aggressive than a 5+ year old drake, however our 7 year old drake is still quite the ladies’ man. Also, from late winter through summer, your drake will likely be far more sexually aggressive than he will be from late fall through mid winter. At present, we keep our drake in a separate coop at night. During the day, we allow for a quick conjugal visit in the morning, otherwise he’s in a separate fenced run. However, there’s about a 2-3 month window in the cold months when our drake is able to be fully integrated with the females, although we still do keep him in his own coop at night just to keep him comfortable with and used to those accommodations.

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        Chef's Choice Recipes

        Recipe: Calamondin citrus-scallop aguachile

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        Quick introduction to Chef David and our new Chef’s Choice series

        Calamondin citrus-scallop aguachile is the first recipe in our new Chef’s Choice recipe series created by James Beard-nominated chef, David Porras. The goal of this series is to educate and inspire your inner home chef while introducing you to amazing, unusual ingredients. 

        This month, we challenged Chef David to turn our homegrown orange-ripe calamondin citrus (aka calamansi) into a healthy, delicious recipe that’s simple enough to make at home but sophisticated enough to be served at a high-end restaurant.  (Related article: How to grow and use calamondin citrus)

        Calamondins from our potted citrus orchard. Fodder for Chef David. When orange-ripe, calamondins taste like a tart cross between kumquats, tangerines, and lemons. In some countries/cultures, they also use green calamondins as lime alternatives. 

        Substitution note: Don’t have calamondins? A 50-50 mix of tangerine and lemon juice will provide a close flavor proximation. 

        Chef David Porras's calamondin citrus-scallop aguachile recipe.

        Chef David Porras’s calamondin citrus-scallop aguachile recipe. Never in a million years would we have thought to make this with our calamondins.

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          Gardening

          Edible hibiscus? How to grow and use Hibiscus sabdariffa

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          Certain hibiscus plants don’t just make beautiful flowers, they can also make wonderful edible plants! In this article, you’ll learn more how to ID, grow, and use edible hibiscus, specifically Hibiscus sabdariffa.


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            Cindy
            October 2, 2024 at 3:28 pm

            Can both blossoms and calyxes be harvested or will removal of the blossoms prior to them drying up and falling off inhibit the calyxes from maturing? Same if wanting to save a few calyxes for seed production – will removing the blossoms in order to use said blossoms inhibit the production of seeds?

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              Aaron von Frank
              October 2, 2024 at 4:15 pm

              Removing the hibiscus blossoms isn’t likely to inhibit calyx or seed development so long as the reproductive organs of the flower aren’t damaged when you remove the petals. The petals are edible but relatively nondescript, so I doubt you’d use enough of them to put much of a dent in overall production calyx or seed production.

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            Amit Jindal
            June 5, 2024 at 10:39 am

            Hi,
            I live in CT and I think our zone is 6a. I guess this verity will can’t be used outside in my zone.. Do you know if any other hardy hibiscus verity can be edible in my zone?
            Thanks

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 5, 2024 at 2:11 pm

              Hi Amit! Hibiscus sabdariffa is the best edible hibiscus so they’re the one we’d recommend. You can grow it in your zone but you’ll need to ensure your plants get a longer growing season by doing one or both of the following: 1) starting the plants earlier indoors to get them a few months jumpstart on the season, and/or 2) growing them in moveable pots/containers rather than in-ground so you can move them into protection in late summer-fall whenever temperatures start getting too cold for them. Hope this helps!

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            Kim
            July 24, 2023 at 5:53 pm

            Hello – My husband was told Hollywood Hibiscus is edible. Is that correct? I searched online but no where does it list Hollywood Hibiscus are edible.

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              July 25, 2023 at 7:35 am

              It’s very difficult to provide sweeping generalizations as to the edibility of novel hybrids like those carrying the Hollywood hibiscus name. The answer is that the flowers are probably edible. The leaves may be too. They’re also very unlikely to be either: a) very good from an edibility standpoint since that’s not what they’re bred for, or b) poisonous. Since the plant is not likely to contain harmful compounds at high concentrations, you could taste a small amount and see if you find it flavorful and also see if you have any averse reactions. However, if you want the best edible hibiscus plant that has a long history of safe use as food, choose Hibiscus sabdariffa, aka roselle.

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            Rumi
            September 24, 2022 at 4:54 pm

            hi , I live in the tropics and we have Hibiscus moscheutos commonly found here. The flower is bright red and some leaves are checkered or variated while most are dark green. Is this variety edible ?

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              Susan von Frank
              September 24, 2022 at 10:13 pm

              Hi Rumi! Yes, Hibiscus moscheutos leaves and flowers are edible, raw or cooked. They’re not as good as Hibiscus sabdariffa in our opinion. Very mild flavor and slight bit of mucilage. The flowers are beautiful on a plate though. As far as edible hibiscuses go, we don’t know of a better one that H. sabdariffa.

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            Ann Redmond
            July 26, 2022 at 8:11 pm

            I would like to grow more hibiscus. I have one beautiful, [ i think it is a double yellow..] I want to use hibiscus for teas … I am unsure if my yellow one is edible, Ive only seen the red ones being used for ingesting. Do you sell any of the edible Hibiscus? or seeds? or can u recommend some one who does.

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              Aaron von Frank
              July 27, 2022 at 11:44 am

              Hi Ann! Some people say that ALL hibiscus plant flowers are edible, but we’re not comfortable making that absolute claim for two reasons: 1) There are innumerable subspecies, varieties, and hybrids of hibiscus out there, each one featuring slightly different chemical compositions. 2) Individual physiology varies by person and some people may be taking medications that negatively interact with compounds found in hibiscus. That’s to say, one person consuming the same hibiscus flowers at the same quantity might be fine and another might experience some ill effects.

              That’s why we recommend utilizing hibiscus plants such as Hibiscus sabdariffa, with a long history of safe culinary use/human consumption. (Even then, safety exceptions may apply for people taking certain types of medications.) Are your yellow hibiscus flowers edible? Probably so, but don’t take that as a guarantee or an assurance of safety. If you do decide to try them, start with a small amount, such as a single flower made into a tea, and see if you notice any adverse effects.

              As far as where to buy Hibiscus sabdariffa seeds, we provide a link to a recommended and highly rated retailer (the Plant Good Seed Store) in the article but we’ll include it again here: https://amzn.to/3vmy3YS.

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            Martha Norris
            February 15, 2022 at 3:07 pm

            Hi Aaron I have been looking for Hibiscus Sabdariffa plan to grow out side, I live in Sacramento Ca. I have other Hibiscus plants that are not the Sabdariffa, can you suggest where to buy one or mail order a plant ?

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              Aaron von Frank
              February 15, 2022 at 3:35 pm

              Hi Martha! It looks like you’re in Ag Zone 9. Hibiscus sabdariffa/roselle can be grown as a perennial in Zones 8+ so you’re fortunate in that regard – you won’t have to get or grow new roselle plants every year.

              I have seen a few online nurseries selling Hibiscus sabdariffa as potted plants. Example, Logee’s: https://www.logees.com/roselle-jamaican-hibiscus-hibiscus-sabdariffa.html. However, buying them as plants is quite expensive (up to $20/plant) whereas you can buy a pack of certified organic seeds for under $5. You may want to go that route instead?

              Another option is to call local nurseries in your area to see if they happen to have any available. You might get lucky.

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            Barbara K
            December 28, 2021 at 2:44 pm

            I am in Zone 7a on the NJ shore. I would like to try edible Hibiscus, but I guess it won’t be perennial in this climate. Wondering if I could do it in a pot. I have several tub plants, (ornamental hibiscus tree, lemon, mandevilla, ferns, oleander, fig) , which I winter successfully in a sunroom which stays above freezing. Does it seem to you that it would be worth a try?

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              Aaron von Frank
              December 29, 2021 at 11:55 am

              Hi Barbara! We’re in Zone 7b in Greenville, South Carolina, so our zones are nearly identical. We don’t grow edible Hibiscus sabdariffa as a perennial here, we grow it as an annual.

              Yes, you can grow Hibiscus sabdariffa in pots if you want to, but in your case you actually don’t need to. However, to get a good yield of hibiscus calyxes in our temperate climate zone, you’ll need to start the plants early indoors – right around now through early January would be ideal. Then transplant them out after your last frost date in spring.

              If you do try to grow them in pots, keep in mind that they’re relatively fast-growing and can get pretty large (~6 ft tall with a 4-5′ spread). So you’ll eventually need to pot them up into large pots (5 gallon+) and have plenty of room for them indoors in your sunroom. Again, our recommendation would be to grow them as annuals instead.

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            Ivona S
            March 3, 2021 at 12:20 pm

            Hi, i am trying to plant hibiscus sabdarifa this year. They sprout but when they have 2 leaves they dy out and die. I have them inside it is March curently, on windows that get a lots of sun, it is too soon to plant them out yet. Please advise what i need to do to keep them alive for rest of the seazon. I water at least 1 a week. Temp is around 74- 75 F, i spray to mist almost every day, they dont sit in water.

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              Aaron von Frank
              March 4, 2021 at 8:00 am

              Sorry, Ivona. It’s hard to provide an accurate diagnosis of what’s going on with your Hibiscus sabdarifa seedlings without seeing the plants. It doesn’t sound like you’re over-watering them, which would cause rot and/or damping off. If you’re only watering them once per week, it’s possible the soil is actually too dry and that’s what’s killing them. You want to maintain even soil moisture with your seedlings – not too damp, not too dry. Ideal consistency is like a well-wrung out sponge.

              Another possibility is they’re not getting enough sun if you have modern energy-efficient windows which filter out a lot of light. If this is the case, the seedlings would look tall and spindly, before eventually flopping over and dying.

              Let me know if this info helps or if you’d like to send some photos for a diagnosis?

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            Riches
            December 15, 2020 at 2:55 am

            my hibiscus tea is ready for harvest but I don’t know when to cut it and I don’t also have the dryer

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              Aaron von Frank
              December 15, 2020 at 12:54 pm

              No problem, Riches! Just snip off the dark red calyxes from the plant, remove the interior seed pod, and enjoy. You can eat your Hibiscus sabdariffa calyxes raw, cooked, or made into tea. They’ll also dry fine without a dehydrator. Remove the seed pods, lay out in a single layer on a table or cookie sheet, and place them under an indoor fan for about a week until they’re nice and dry. Then store in ziplocks. You can also use the leaves – younger leaves are better for fresh eating or cooking.

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            Cristina
            December 14, 2020 at 10:52 pm

            Hibiscus sabdariffa, aka ‘Florida cranberry,’ ‘Cranberry hibiscus,’ and ‘Roselle.’ it’s a little bit confusing to me, because I thought that “cranberry hibiscus” is Hibiscus acetosella.
            Thank you!

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              Aaron von Frank
              December 15, 2020 at 12:51 pm

              I think ‘cranberry hibiscus’ is more commonly used to refer to Hibiscus acetosella, but we’ve also heard people refer to Hibiscus sabdariffa with the same common name. That’s why we simply call the plant by its scientific name, Hibiscus sabdariffa – hard to confuse that one! Hibiscus acetosella is a good edible in its own right (for greens) but does not produce edible calyxes like H. sabdariffa.

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            lisa
            November 15, 2020 at 6:35 pm

            Hi, I’ve never had hibiscus until last week when I harvested some from a friends plants to make tea. It was maybe the best thing I’ve ever had to drink and I want to plant them everywhere.

            I saved the seeds and have them indoors, but notice some are molding and turning black. I’m in north Florida, its November. I opened one of the pods and took the little seeds out. They are still white. Will they be usable or does the entire pod have to dry out with the seeds inside?

            What is the proper method for drying the pods and preventing mold?

            Thanks kindly : )

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              Aaron von Frank
              November 17, 2020 at 10:39 pm

              In our experience, Hibiscus sabdariffa can be a little tricky to save seed from. You need to let the calyxes mature beyond the ripe stage that you’d harvest them at for eating in order for the seeds to fully develop. Basically, leave them on the plant until they’re desiccated, then harvest and dry for seed. You might want to ask your friend if they can leave some of the calyxes on their plant for the purpose of seed saving.

              Once you have pods with fully mature seeds, dry them indoors with the seeds inside or remove them from the pod for drying (it doesn’t really matter either way). My guess is the reason your hibiscus pods molded is because the seeds/pod were immature so they basically started to rot.

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            Eileen Johnson
            November 7, 2020 at 12:42 pm

            I reread the article again and found the link to the false Rosella. That’s what I have.

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              Aaron von Frank
              November 11, 2020 at 5:02 pm

              Ah, great! Glad you identified your False Roselle!

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            Eileen Johnson
            November 7, 2020 at 12:38 pm

            I was given what i am told is a hibiscus several years ago that is a perennial in my northern Florida location. It dies and come back in the spring . The leaves are rather purplish and maple shape and the flower or calyxes have no taste for tea. But the leaves are awesomely tart and I love eating them raw. Do you know if indeed it is a type of hibiscus and I’m safe to eat it? I also have the annuals that I plant and use for tea. Thank you.

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              Aaron von Frank
              November 11, 2020 at 5:01 pm

              Hi Eileen! There are so many hybrid hibiscuses out there, it’s impossible to say for certain whether a particular hibiscus cultivar/plant is edible or not. In your case, since you’ve had years of experiencing ingesting your plant presumably without ill effect, it sounds like it is indeed edible. Given the distinct morphological features of hibiscus plants, you should be able to positively identify it as belonging to the Hibiscus genus.

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            Ellen
            October 25, 2020 at 2:42 pm

            Home is in Columbus Ohio. I started my seeds indoors in February and were planted outside in May when about 6-8 inches tall. I planted several in different light settings. Plants consistently only grew 5 ft tall. Can see potential flowers and calyxes but never bloomed and it is the end of October. I will harvest some leaves before frost but why didn’t I get blooms. I can bring one plant indoors. Should I try and overwinter it by a window?

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              Aaron von Frank
              October 26, 2020 at 3:48 pm

              Hi Ellen! Hard to say for certain what happened, but Hibiscus sabdariffa is a tropical native that does require a pretty long growing season to produce calyxes. I’m wondering if your season was either a bit too short or your light levels a bit too low to trigger calyx production. Next year, you may want to start your seeds 6-8 weeks earlier so your plants have an even longer jumpstart. As for your current plants, yes, you can bring them indoors to overwinter if you have a bright, sunny south-facing window. Please check back in to let us know how things turn out.

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            Rebecca Dean
            October 5, 2020 at 5:40 pm

            Do you havest the purple before the white flower comes. I wish i could send a picture. The plants are as tall as my house and loaded. I’m confused on how to harvest. If I wait until it gets white flower I can’t get the purple.

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              Aaron von Frank
              October 5, 2020 at 10:32 pm

              Rebecca, can you please send photos of your hibiscus to aaron @ tyrantfarms.com? If you’re growing Hibiscus sabdariffa, the calyxes should enlarge significantly and become easier to harvest after they’ve flowered and set. So, please shoot me some photos and let’s see if we can figure out what’s happening with your plant.

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            Charleneje
            September 26, 2019 at 9:07 pm

            Actual seeds I get from my Hibiscus are black/brown in color and on the widest part have like a hairy kind of ring around them I have nevr got them to grow by planting them but have had alot of seedlings come up from dropped seedpods never understood why I cant get them to produce seedlings when I plant them in good seed soil in peat pots

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              Aaron von Frank
              September 27, 2019 at 6:49 pm

              Are you growing Hibiscus sabdariffa or a different variety? Not sure why your saved seeds wouldn’t germinate if the seeds you leave outdoor are germinating. Is it possible you’re harvesting the roselles that you’re planning to save for seed too early, therefore not giving the seeds enough time to mature? We’ve actually made that mistake ourselves before.

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            Anonymous
            September 22, 2019 at 11:44 am

            How do I make tea from the fresh leaves? Can I dry the leaves and have them for use at a later date?

            I’m a few months too late getting to the fresh calyxes, I think. These plants have done wonderfully up here in south-central Pennsylvania, but I too had to start them under lights in March.

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              Aaron von Frank
              September 23, 2019 at 11:09 am

              Harvest, chop, and dry the leaves, then use them throughout the year.

              Are you saying your plants formed calyxes but you’re just late harvesting or that your hibiscus plants didn’t have enough time to form calyxes in the first place up in PA? Would be good for other people in northern climates to have some additional info based on your growing experience. Thanks!

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            Rachel Davenport Jasper
            June 8, 2019 at 12:53 pm

            Is it too late to plant Roselle hibiscus seeds directly in the ground? Middle TN.

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 9, 2019 at 11:01 am

              Hi Rachel! Hmm. Sounds like you’re somewhere in Zone 7b, which is equivalent to us (we’re in Greenville, SC). The fastest we’ve ever gone from seed to harvestable hibiscus roselle is ~3 months. You could feasibly get 1-2 months of production out of them, especially if you have a late first frost this year. The plants are not at all frost tolerant. However, you probably won’t have time to get a LOT of roselles. Our recommendation: go for it! Just make sure you save some seeds for next year and try to get an earlier start.

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 9, 2019 at 11:12 am

              I should also note that Hibiscus sabdariffa leaves make an excellent tea too, and taste proximate to the calyxes. So you can use the leaves even if you run out of time on the calyxes.

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            Jennifer S.
            July 8, 2015 at 8:04 pm

            Been trying to harvest from my hibiscus but my calyxes only go from the normal green while bloomed then to yellow after blooms fall, how do I get them to produce the red calyxes for jelly and teas?

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            Thu Thuy
            June 25, 2015 at 4:54 pm

            i would like to have some seed,
            please. I can’t find the plant any where near me.
            My email : [email protected] and mailing address: 1310 W 43rd CT Kennewick,WA 99337. Can i put the seed down right now or have to wait until fall.

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            Linda Gray
            May 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm

            Where can I find the edible Hibiscus in my area of Central VA?

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            Carol
            May 4, 2015 at 5:58 pm

            Can you use ANY hibiscus for the tea? I don’t know the name of mine but is has large red flowers.

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            elyse
            April 25, 2015 at 3:44 pm

            I’m assuming you can’t use hibiscus plants found in garden centers for edible purposes? I’ve been seeing hibiscus used in recipies and diy beauty treatments which I’ve been getting into lately. I’m getting ready to start a blog about all my adventures, and growing and using hibiscus is definitely in my plans. I think I’m a little late to start them this year but plan to try anyway. Thanks for the great info!

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            Stacie
            February 11, 2015 at 10:19 pm

            Do you just grow new hibiscus plants each year as annuals? I love Hibiscus tea (am drinking some right now). I am a medical student in Augusta, GA, but I love gardening. I have actually been testing the weather here this winter to see if Camellia sinensis (for green tea) would survive, and the little plants I have are really thriving so far. The cold weather and frosts did not bother them at all. I would really like to try growing Hibiscus sometime. Do you just grow them out in the garden during the warm weather, and they get big enough in one season to harvest plenty of calyxes? And how early in the spring would you need to start the seeds?

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            Landrew
            January 24, 2015 at 1:07 pm

            I am LOVING saril tea in Panama. Would like to try growing it in Victoria BC Canada, but not sure whether I should bring seeds in suitcase or whether this variety will grow there.
            I will certainly try.

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            Ita Carey
            January 4, 2015 at 6:36 pm

            This was very interesting information. My Mom buys a new hibiscus every year because in New Mexico they tend to freeze. We had no idea these beautiful flowers were edible and good for you. We would love to receive some of your seeds.

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            Courtney the
            January 2, 2015 at 4:02 am

            Any chance you would ship those seeds to the states? I live in so cal and would be thrilled to grow these beauties.

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            Samantha
            December 14, 2014 at 2:50 pm

            Do you have any seeds to spare still?

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            Zachary Johnson
            October 22, 2014 at 9:27 pm

            I love growing plants if you can send me some seeds I will share them with my friends ..Ewa blue worms is my handle worms make my garden grow seeds sprout in the vermicast.

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            vanessa
            October 5, 2014 at 4:38 pm

            Curious… I have hibiscus flowers, but the calyxes never turn red… they pretty much stay a tan or brown… are these useful? are those flowers ok to use as tea, if not the calyxes?
            Thanks for whatever information you can give.

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            Dawn
            June 18, 2014 at 8:20 am

            I recently went to a tea sampling class and had the opportunity to try iced hibiscus tea and what a delight. I was so amazed. Not only a beautiful flower but your post and pics educated me to all of the other uses of this wonderful flower. Thanks for this! I would love to try to plant some of your seeds if you have any left. Thanks and I look forward to your other tips and recipes!

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            Mariana
            April 24, 2014 at 2:48 pm

            these flowers are very useful in many ways!

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            Aaron
            April 7, 2014 at 9:11 am

            Senait: Please send us an email with your address to [email protected]. I’d be happy to send some seeds to you.

          • Reply
            Paulette
            October 20, 2013 at 7:38 pm

            I was given a a handful of hibiscus calyxes today at the farmers markets. I’m so glad I found your blog! I wasn’t given enough to make jelly, but I now know I can use them in place of cranberries (fresh) and for tea (dried). Thanks so much!
            And to think I grew up with hibiscus in the yard and never knew about the tart calyx.

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              Susan
              October 22, 2013 at 2:46 pm

              Thank you and same here, Paulette! We both grew up with hibiscuses and never had any idea about their edible properties until we became obsessed with gardening a few years ago. Now, we love them for their food, not just their beauty, and have to grow them every year.

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            Charlie@Seattle Trekker
            October 3, 2013 at 2:18 am

            Very interesting, I am always looking for ideas that stretch me as a gardener. Thank you.

            • Reply
              Susan
              October 3, 2013 at 11:24 am

              Thanks Charlie! The variety of plants to choose from in a garden is staggering. Each new season offers a chance to try something new (although it’s always nice to have a bunch of staple perennial plants).

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            Patricia Chandler Walker
            October 1, 2013 at 12:45 am

            I hope to drop by in the next few weeks. You are definitely out of my stomping grounds, but I do come to Gville now on tue evenings for something. Maybe one Tue I can come early and drop by. Also I really want to get to one of those Permaculture meetings.

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              Susan
              October 1, 2013 at 9:38 am

              Sounds good! Just give us a little bit of a heads up if you know you’ll be swinging by on one of your Tuesday visits.

          • Reply
            Reid giacomarra
            September 30, 2013 at 11:14 pm

            Love hibiscus. Good for mild hypertension. Live in n.j. & have 2 other varieties that are tasty but don’t make that beautiful ruby tart tea.thanks for the interesting information.

            • Reply
              Aaron
              December 18, 2013 at 7:46 pm

              Thanks Reid! Glad you enjoyed the post. Yes, there are also a number of interesting medical benefits that can be enjoyed from drinking tea hibiscus as well.

          • Reply
            Kanit Jacobs
            September 30, 2013 at 10:54 pm

            that’s great information. I’ve tried hibiscus tea once, it was delicious.

            • Reply
              Susan
              October 23, 2013 at 9:08 pm

              Thanks Kanit! Glad you enjoyed – the article and the tea. 🙂

          • Reply
            Patricia Chandler Walker
            September 30, 2013 at 9:11 pm

            The picture itself looks scrumptious.You two are so creative in your gardening. You make it so fun. I will have to try some next year. I would love to get a couple of seeds of that and the Cape gooseberry (isn’t that the one you raved about?). I ordered a couple of Goji berry plants I can’t wait to get them going.

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              Susan
              September 30, 2013 at 9:56 pm

              @Patricia: You know it! Want us to drop some in the mail or do you think you’ll be able to swing by in the next few weeks before the summer growing season officially ends? And thanks for the nice compliments!

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            ajgroe
            September 30, 2013 at 8:28 pm

            Love edible floras! I spent the summer dreaming of growing edible hibiscus, but that wasn’t on our to do list this year. This will give me the opportunity to do so next year!

            • Reply
              Susan
              September 30, 2013 at 9:54 pm

              AJ: We just emailed you at your gmail account so let us know your address and we’ll get some seeds in the mail to you. We’re glad this will push you over the edge. Next summer, make sure to get them planted in a warm, well-draining spot with rich soil, and you should have get all the hibiscus calyxes you can handle. They’re a great and unusuak treat!

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                ajgroe
                December 9, 2013 at 5:34 pm

                This is very late, but I received the seeds. I’m very excited to add these to the garden next year. Already have a great, sunny spot to put them. Thank you so much!

                • Aaron
                  December 18, 2013 at 7:36 pm

                  Thanks for growing seeds! Please let us know how they do in the spring. 🙂

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          Ducks

          Where to buy ducklings or ducks for your backyard or small farm

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          There are both practical and ethical considerations to keep in mind when you’re trying to decide where to buy ducklings or mature ducks. Depending on your location and needs, there might not be a perfect answer to the question “where’s the best place to get ducklings or ducks?”

          However, to help you make the best decision possible, let’s take a deeper dive into the available options…

          Ducklings and mother duck - Welsh Harlequin breed.

          One of our momma Welsh Harlequin ducks wondering where she can get more ducklings.

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            Darrell Newman
            March 3, 2023 at 12:15 pm

            I have a question: I want a self sustaining flock of ducks. Should I order males and females from different hatcheries to broaden the NDA gene pool, is this important for a healthy flock?

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              Aaron von Frank
              March 3, 2023 at 3:34 pm

              Hi Darrell! Great question. Here are my duck breeding suggestions if you want to have a really robust, sustainable flock:
              1. Get all female ducks your first year. That way you can get acclimated to raising ducks without the extra hassle of having a mixed-sex flock. If you have multiple drakes, they’ll start aggressively fighting each other, potentially requiring separate coops/runs. Even if you have only one drake, it will start aggressively mating your females, potentially requiring a separate coop/run.
              2. Don’t even start considering breeding your female ducks until they’ve made it through two laying seasons. You’re likely to have some females with congenital health/reproductive problems and you don’t want to carry those genetics forward. Instead, you only want to breed your healthiest, most robust females. Those individuals will become more evident with time.
              3. In Year 2 or 3, get however many drakes you need based on the total number of females you have, the infrastructure you have in place to support them, and the scale of the breeding program you want to develop. Yes, I’d recommend getting your drakes from a different reputable breeder from your females to reduce the likelihood of inbreeding depression.
              4. Rinse and repeat. Also, you may want to tag and name/number your ducks to keep good records on lineage as you move forward.

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          Gardening

          How to prevent or stop voles from eating your plants

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          Trying to figure out how to prevent or stop voles from eating the plants in your garden? Read on to learn how!


          Our yard is a half acre edible organic landscape. We use no-till growing methods and top-dress our beds with wood chip mulch.

          These techniques are GREAT for:

          • soil health,
          • plant health, and
          • providing habitat for a wide diversity of wildlife species.

          However, there is one significant downside: we’ve created an ideal habitat for voles. Voles easily tunnel through our soft, rich soil, protected from predators by a thick layer of mulch.

          Beneath the soil surface, there’s an all-a-vole-can-eat food buffet of delicious plant roots. And where their tunnels open to the surface, even more food awaits.

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            PH
            September 15, 2024 at 9:16 pm

            Because of our vole infestation, we built a 4 foot high raised bed out of roofing panels. We joined them at the corners with wooden strips; and attached hardware cloth to the bottom. On September 13, I planted daikon radishes and carrots. Because I read that carrots need darkness to germinate, I put some paper feed sacks on top of the carrots. The next day, I noticed a mound of dirt by the edge of the paper sack – but I thought that perhaps I had forgotten to smooth the soil. Today, I lifted up the paper sacks to let them get some air and lo! a mouse or vole ran out, jumped out of the raised bed into an adjacent wheel barrow – jumped out of the wheel barrow and disappeared. Then I saw that she was building a nest: the mounded soil came from a depression she had dug, and it was already lined with shredded paper sacks.
            So they can climb – she must have climbed up the wooden strips we used at the 4 corners to join the metal panels.

            I can see that they will eat all my daikon radishes and my world class carrots unless I can keep them out of that bed. They ate my parsnips…

            What can I do?

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              Aaron von Frank
              September 16, 2024 at 12:48 pm

              Ugh, sorry PH! *MOST* vole species are very poor climbers, but not all. I’d be willing to bet that what you saw there is a mouse, not a vole, but it could be one of the species of voles that’s a decent climber. Regardless of what species it is, what matters now is how you can stop the little terrors from eating your plants. I’m wondering if you could install some sort of lip/overhang on the top of your raised bed that would keep them from climbing up and over, similar to the way squirrel baffles keep squirrels from getting to bird feeders?

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            Alecia Bradley
            May 31, 2023 at 7:22 pm

            I used to make those wire baskets which was a royal pain, hurt and cut myself regularly, and finally gave up trying to grow. I just need to know if I can purchase some of your wire baskets. They look perfect for my needs but i don’t see anything in this site about buying some. If they are for sale, you should make buying them easier. I am very interested if you’ll tell me how to purchase.

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 1, 2023 at 8:06 am

              Hi Alecia! We’re not a producer or manufacturer of wire baskets, we’re just recommending products and methods that we’ve found to work to prevent voles from damaging our plants. The pre-made wire baskets we recommend are made by a company called Vole King, and can be purchased on Amazon here: https://amzn.to/2Mtp9EC. Hope these help you as much as they’ve helped us!

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            Kristen
            May 9, 2023 at 3:10 pm

            Hi there,

            Last year, voles ate all of my sunflower seeds once planted and I wasn’t able to grow any. If I follow the above steps, will the sunflower’s roots be able to grow through the hardwire cloth, given that their roots need to grow quite deep?

            Thanks in advance!

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              May 11, 2023 at 11:53 am

              Hi Kristen! Yes, sunflower roots will have no trouble growing through 1/2″ hardware cloth. The roots would also grow fine through Vole King bags. Good luck beating your voles!

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            Mary Regoli
            April 29, 2023 at 10:18 am

            How do you firmly attach the hardware cloth to the bottom of the metal raised bed?

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              Aaron von Frank
              May 1, 2023 at 11:54 am

              Hi Mary! We did not firmly attach the metal hardware cloth to the bottom of our metal raised beds. We just leveled the ground, put the hardware cloth down, then put the metal raised beds on top of the wire. Then we put down some mulch to hide the hardware cloth.

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            Marty Rudolph
            March 26, 2023 at 8:28 pm

            This is very helpful information and makes me feel that I am not alone with vole phobia. But they did eat all my grape hyacinths, as well as the regular hyaciths just so you know.

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            Maryann McArdle
            September 23, 2022 at 10:44 am

            Some of my clumps of dahlia tubers grow to be fairly large. Can they really fit inside a one gallon bag or do I need to get a larger size? Does the bag inhibit the growth of the tubers?

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              Aaron von Frank
              September 23, 2022 at 3:27 pm

              If you don’t plan to pull and divide your dahlia tubers at the end of the growing season, you’re probably better off getting a larger bag. We also eat our dahlia tubers so having them contained to a bag makes that process easier.

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            Ross
            August 8, 2022 at 5:26 pm

            I have a question about this: “If you’ve already got raised garden beds and you want to keep voles out, you can dig a 1′ deep trench around the outside and bury hardware cloth in it. Supposedly, voles won’t dig any deeper than a foot.”

            I’m wondering why surrounding the raised beds with hardware cloth would stop the voles? From what I can see in my own garden the voles make holes in different locations in the raised beds and then dive down them and go to work devouring all the roots of my plants, killing them overnight. So I am assuming even if my raised beds were surrounded by hardware cloth this wouldn’t stop them. Why would this work? Am I missing something?

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              Aaron von Frank
              August 9, 2022 at 11:22 am

              Sorry for any confusion on that point, Ross. We edited that section a bit to make it more clear. It now reads:

              “If you already have raised garden beds and you want to keep voles out, you can do the following:

              1. Dig a 1′ deep trench around the outside and bury hardware cloth in it. Supposedly, voles won’t dig any deeper than a foot. 

              2. If the height of the walls of your bed is less than 2′, you’ll want to add additional framing to the sides of your raised beds to reach 2′ tall in order to prevent voles from climbing or jumping in. 

              Note: If you think there are already voles living under the soil surface in your raised beds, taking the steps above will trap the critters in your beds, which won’t do you much good. In this case, you’d also need to temporarily dig out the existing soil to make sure no voles/nests are present before vole-proofing the beds. 

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            Martha
            August 2, 2021 at 2:39 pm

            Hello. My question is regarding raised beds gardens. I have voles which have managed their way into my beds. I used mesh 1/2 but unfortunately they got in. I see and have leaned by my mistakes like: overlapping the mesh because it wasn’t wide enough. Well would you recommend adding mesh around where I “see” the openings now( in order to try and save my onions, carrots and pepper family) ?? Or is it too late?

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              August 3, 2021 at 12:34 pm

              Sorry for your troubles, Martha! Voles can drive gardeners absolutely crazy. As you’ve discovered, your mesh wire has to be secured to the underside of your raised bed framing with no gaps or holes – otherwise, voles will find their way in.

              It certainly can’t hurt to try to save this season’s crops by putting additional mesh wire over spots where you see voles coming in. However, it may be impossible to block all of their underground access points without pulling up the entire raised bed frame. Our advise: try to salvage this season’s crops by patching where you can. Then, when it’s time for a season transition and you’re finished with your summer crops, you may want to fully redo the wire mesh underneath your raised bed frames.

              Best of luck preventing future vole damage in your garden!

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            Charlotte
            March 24, 2021 at 7:47 pm

            I’m too late to plant using the baskets: I’d planted an almond tree and have found what I believe is a vole hole (all the tulip bulbs I planted have disappeared) at the bottom of the tree going in to the roots. Is there any way I can now save this tree? Do I just fill up the hole and hope for the best? Thank you so much for your help.

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              Aaron von Frank
              March 25, 2021 at 10:37 am

              Hi Charlotte! As far as we know, there is no technology to protect an already-planted tree’s roots from vole damage. There is a possibility that you have moles, chipmunks, or some other rodent which are harmless to trees, rather than voles — although your disappearing tulip bulbs suggest otherwise. It’s also possible that with enough other food sources around, the voles won’t damage your almond tree before it’s able to reach an age/size where they can’t do much harm to it. However, if you want to be proactive, one thing you can do is set mouse traps next to the suspected vole hole(s) with a box over it to keep other animals (raccoons, possums, etc) from getting popped. If you keep after them, you can kill the colony. We hate killing wildlife, but: a) voles are not exactly an endangered species, and b) we know very well from experience how much damage voles can do to fruit trees, having lost an apricot, plum, and other trees over the years before utilizing root cages during transplanting. Best of luck and we hope your almond tree makes it!

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                Karen Friedman
                August 31, 2022 at 12:37 am

                Hi! I’ve put finely chopped minced garlic that comes in a glass jar and is the “liquidy” kind around the base of established and/or container plants. You do have to refresh but I’ve had some real success. Sometimes I’ll mix with Chile powder.
                I just bought the mesh cages so I’m thrilled to hear they work.
                Once you decide to live as best you can, sharing your yard, Voles are fascinating creatures. They mate for life and are known to have higher amounts of the feel good hormones,(just blanking out on the hormone names), that create love connections than other mammals. While I do have bursts of Vole Venom, Over time they have peaked my curiosity and have just learned to share my yard. I also rather have Voles than mice. My feelings are, “ if not Voles, it will be something else”
                Love the article!

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            Atlanta homeowner
            March 13, 2021 at 11:54 pm

            I am sad to say, our Atlanta pine voles were able to chew holes through all our vole king baskets. Save yourself the time, money, and frustration. ..wish I had known beforehand…lots of money wasted 🙁
            I have resorted to making homemade baskets with 1/4” hardware cloth available at big box stores.

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              Aaron von Frank
              March 14, 2021 at 10:39 am

              Oh no! I’ll be sure to reach out to the company to let them know about your report. We haven’t lost any plants we’ve put into vole king baskets here in Greenville, SC. We actually used to use the 1/4″ hardware cloth but switched to vole king baskets since they’re easier and faster to work with. Sorry to hear about your troubles.

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            Bub's Bees & Blooms
            September 2, 2020 at 9:41 am

            If I’m planting a massive amount of bulbs (around 2,000) would you suggest making my own with hardware cloth to be more cost effective? Or if you think I should still use the vole king cages – what is the largest size I can use with it still being effective?

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              Aaron von Frank
              September 2, 2020 at 11:52 am

              Sounds like Vole King baskets might not be the most economical solution in your situation. The other option we mention in this article for vole prevention will likely be best: build raised beds with mesh wiring attached to the bottoms to prevent voles from tunneling in. You could also trench out large in-ground beds and bury hardware cloth, but you run the risk of voles going over the top and in on that large a space. Hope this helps and best of luck!

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          Geese

          How to hatch goose eggs – tips, tricks, and troubleshooting

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          Want to hatch goose eggs? Or do you have a broody goose sitting on a pile of eggs? Read on to learn what to expect, problems that may arise, and the benefits of letting momma goose do the incubating for you!


          A gosling cuddling up next to momma goose for warmth and protection.

          A gosling cuddling up next to momma goose for warmth and protection.

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            Nicole Martin
            April 11, 2024 at 10:31 pm

            I just rescued geese eggs from a flood. There were only 2 left and were about 5-6. What do I need to do to incubate them and save them? The momma let me take them. I think she knew what was happening. I don’t want to lose them. Tonight I put them in a homemade nest with a heating pad. Tomorrow I’m going to buy an incubator.

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              Aaron von Frank
              April 12, 2024 at 10:02 am

              Hi Nicole! First, thank you for rescuing the goose eggs from the flood. MJ (the author of this article) lets her geese hatch their own eggs, thus she doesn’t have experience hatching them via an incubator. She recommends this Bramblewood Hill article which details how to hatch goose eggs via an incubator: https://bramblewoodhill.com/incubating-hatching-goose-eggs/. Good luck and I hope you’re able to re-wild your geese after they’ve hatched and matured!

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            Willmet
            March 20, 2024 at 8:43 pm

            Based on the article, what are the benefits of letting a mother goose incubate eggs over using an incubator?

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              Aaron von Frank
              March 22, 2024 at 10:05 am

              An incubator requires the human to do all the work and monitoring from incubation through rearing. If you let a goose incubate, she does all the work.

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            Telkom University
            November 2, 2023 at 3:24 am

            Can you share any insights into the best time of year for hatching goose eggs and the impact of seasonal variations?

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              Aaron von Frank
              November 3, 2023 at 9:52 am

              Geese will naturally lay and hatch eggs at the optimal time for reproductive success each year. The exact time window will vary by location/climate. Here in the US, that’s usually somewhere between late winter and mid-spring, with some variance by climate region. This hatch timing allows for goslings to start out life in a time window of high natural food abundance so they get the nutrition they need to rapidly develop, then be fully grown by the time cold weather returns in fall.

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            zidane
            June 25, 2023 at 11:30 pm

            thank you for the article

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            Melody Coffman
            May 23, 2023 at 9:14 pm

            I have a male and female pair of American Buff Geese. Last year she laid eggs but all over the place. Pretty early spring and we had freezing temps. No luck with these. This year she laid several eggs and began setting on them. Taking extra care of the nest and being very attentive. So we waited and waited. It had been over 30 days and she just left the nest. Sometimes going and rearranging some of the straw but not setting. I candled the eggs tonight and they all didn’t even look fertile. So no babies again. What might be the problem?

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              Aaron von Frank
              May 25, 2023 at 11:34 am

              Hi Melody! It’s very unusual to have a paired goose and gander that don’t produce fertilized eggs. Hopefully, he’s not infertile. I’ve passed your question on to MJ (our goose expert) and she’ll weigh in as soon as she’s able to.

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              Madia (MJ)
              May 30, 2023 at 2:14 pm

              The short answer is: I can’t say for certain. Have you seen your geese mating? Assuming the answer is yes…

              Geese will abandon a nest if eggs have gone bad. Of course, this means they were never fertile to begin with. It is interesting that your goose started sitting with just a couple eggs; usually geese accumulate more eggs than that before they start sitting.

              It’s also important to note that the fertility of different goose breeds ranges from 53.8% to 84.72%, but heavier breeds of geese will have lower fertility rates. So it’s possible that your breed is on the less fertile side of the spectrum.

              Other possible factors: long and cold winters can delay the reproductive cycle in both sexes, so a shorter reproductive cycle can also decrease the likelihood of fertility.

              You might also want to examine your feed. Good quality feed is essential for higher fertility. And Vitamin E deficiency in ganders can affect semen volume.

              If you’d like to take a deeper dive into the scientific literature behind fertility in geese, here’s a good source (there’s a link below the summary on the page for the full PDF report): https://scialert.net/abstract/amp.php?doi=ijps.2020.51.65

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                Yvonne Schutt
                September 14, 2024 at 5:03 pm

                I have African geese, though their knobs aren’t real prominent. They laid 2 clutches this spring & summer. Neither hatched hatched. She is a broody. However, during her breaks the gander would go in and sit on them but at times wouldn’t let her back on the nest. He also sat next to her in the nest. Eventually he stole some of the eggs and sat on them himself. The eggs didn’t hatch. A black rat snake got into the nest & tried swallowing one of the eggs. I went in to pull him out & she came to see what I was doing and oblivious to the snake and trod on him & looked at me questioning why I was there. The snake was very, very docile. She continued to sit but after 32 days left the nest. I have watched them mate but nothing. I don’t know what to think.

                • Madia (MJ)
                  October 7, 2024 at 11:22 am

                  Hello Yvonne! I am curious if the gander is actually a gander…? I’ve never seen ganders behaving that way. Usually a gander will stand guard next to the nest, but not lay on it – it can happen, but it is rare. To go beyond that and steal the eggs to make “his” own nest… that sounds like another female to me. Knobs can vary in size with both males and females, and take a few years to fully develop. There isn’t much to determine the difference in sexes other than vent sexing or sometimes size (which tends to be subtle: males between 16-22 lbs and females around 18 lbs). And two females will definitely “mate” in the absence of or in spite of the presence of a gander. Also, females will often lay eggs in the same nest and then fight over who gets to lay on it. Hope you get this mystery figured out!

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          Ducks

          What to feed pet or backyard ducks to maximize their health and longevity

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          The conventional wisdom about what to feed pet or backyard ducks may be causing preventable health problems or even deaths in your flock. In this article, we’ll detail an avian vet-approved feeding regimen you can use to promote the long-term health of your ducks.


          Context: Maintainer feed vs. layer feed

          Waterfowl feed typically comes in two different formulations: maintainer and layer. What’s the difference between them?

          • Maintainer (aka maintenance) feed is 13-15% protein and about 1% calcium;
          • Layer (aka breeder) feed is 16-17% protein and about 3% calcium.

          How we started feeding our ducks… and what we’ve since learned

          When we first got ducks way back in 2013, we didn’t know much about duck nutrition or have any personal experience to draw on. Thus, we sought out feeding formulas and regimens from experienced duck parents that we could then use to provide our ducks with the nutrition they needed.

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            Tina Hardee
            September 27, 2024 at 12:28 am

            Hello. I found your site and really loved the info and pics. I love your ideas and duck set up. I found a duck that someone disowned. I’m trying to set up an area for her and read about proper care. I keep reading about niacin and brewer’s yeast. Is this something that a duck needs and at what stage of life do they need it? I think my duck is a female Pekin around 8 weeks old. Any extra advice is welcomed. I’m trying to find her a friend because I know they are very sociable. Thank You!

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              Aaron von Frank
              October 2, 2024 at 3:24 pm

              Niacin is essential for proper development in waterfowl during the first 8 weeks. After that, needs lessen. If you have a good duckling-specific feed, it will contain enough niacin. However, niacin is a water soluble vitamin, so you almost can’t overdo it. A copy/paste from our article about raising ducklings:

              “Add Niacin (Vitamin B3) to the feed and/or water. Because ducklings grow faster than chicks, chick starter does not have the niacin levels that are optimal for ducklings. National Research Council (NRC) requirements for ducklings are 55 mg/kg niacin per 2.2 pounds of feed compared to only 27-35 mg/kg for chicks. Niacin deficiencies in ducklings lead to leg deformities since they don’t have the nutrition to support proper bone and muscle development. To supplement, we typically add 2 tablespoons of nutritional yeast per cup of crumble or 100mg B-Complex. (You can also add the same amount per gallon of drinking water instead of to their food.) You can order either form of niacin via Amazon. Make sure you do NOT get timed-release or flush-free B vitamins — neither of those are niacin!”

              You definitely want to get a friend or two for your duck to make sure she stays happy! For your sake, try to get females, not males, or you’ll have to deal with all sorts of problems. Also, given their large size, you should know that Pekins are more prone to health problems such as arthritis and leg/ankle injuries. We try to get our Pekin to eat a Wholemega Fish Oil pill daily, which can help prevent some of these illnesses and injuries. We stick the pill inside a small cherry tomato (which she loves) and she wolfs down the whole thing.

              Best of luck to you!

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            Meg
            June 12, 2024 at 7:46 pm

            Howdy! I follow your protocol I think for my laying ducks.

            I have three 11-mo old Indian runner ducks. I free-feed them primarily Mazuri waterfowl layer feed mixed with the waterfowl maintenance feed, changing the ratio based on season and eggs. I have three new ducklings that will be integrated into the flock in the next month. What are your thoughts on feeding the maintenance feed to the whole flock and just ensuring calcium/oyster shell is available (it already is) to the laying birds?

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            Beth
            January 29, 2024 at 7:37 am

            Hi there, I love your site and your information on raising pet ducks! I have 2 pet drakes (1 welsh harlequin, 1 pekin) who are 9 months old and I live in Australia. I have not been able to find maintainer feed or waterfowl specific feed (except for meat duck finisher feed) so I have been advised by my local feed store to feed the ducks wheat that has been sprouted in water for 2 days. In addition to this they get mealworms/crickets and greens daily. Do you think the wheat is sufficient in meeting their nutritional needs for a long life? If not, do you have any recommendations to improve their diet, or know of a maintainer feed available in Australia?

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              Aaron von Frank
              January 29, 2024 at 12:35 pm

              Hi Beth! Let me start by saying I’m NOT an avian scientist or waterfowl nutritionist, so take what I say here with a grain of salt. You may also want to run this question by an avian vet and/or have your avian vet weigh in on my response below.

              With those caveats out of the way, here are my thoughts: It looks like sprouted wheat has a comparable macro nutrient profile (protein / fat / complex carbs) to Mazuri Waterfowl feed, which is what is commonly used here in the US. Mazuri Maintenance feed is 14% protein and their breeder/layer feed is 17%. Sprouted wheat has 16% protein, which is probably a little high for drakes/males (ideal would be in the 14% range). A lot of the protein in Mazuri likely comes from the addition of fish meal, so the bioavailability and micronutrient profile is going to be a bit different relative to sprouted wheat. Since you’re adding mealworms, crickets, and greens to their diets, your ducks are likely getting lots of other good macro and micro nutrients to make up for any potential deficiencies in a purely sprouted wheat-based diet, but those insects are also high in protein. Too much dietary protein can cause a range of health problems in ducks, so maybe bump back the insects a bit while also bumping up the greens (kale, lettuce, edible weeds, etc). Also, consider including other low-protein, plant-based treats they enjoy. For instance, most of our ducks LOVE tomatoes and watermelons.

              Hope this helps and best wishes to you and your drakes!

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                Beth
                January 30, 2024 at 3:41 am

                Hi Aaron, thank you so much for your prompt and informative reply your thoughts are very useful! Recently we have stopped sprouting the wheat as the drakes seem to prefer the wheat unsprouted. Do you think this will still provide the same nutrients for the ducks? Also perhaps we could add old fashioned oyas to the wheat to reduce the protein? Thank you again!

                • Aaron von Frank
                  January 30, 2024 at 11:10 am

                  You’re welcome! Thanks for taking the time and interest needed to ensure your ducks get the healthy diets they need for optimal health. Oats are a starch, but they also have a significant amount of protein in them. Protein % in old fashioned oats is somewhere between 11-15%, so probably a bit less than wheat, although there is variability. One thing some people do here in the US is grind and ferment the grains before giving it to their poultry. Not a long ferment, just a few days. The fermentation process not only boosts the nutrient levels, but also serves as a probiotic. That’s not something we’ve done and we’re not sure if ducks who haven’t grown up eating this type of food would find it palatable.

                  To directly answer your question: sprouted wheat is more nutritious than un-sprouted wheat, but there isn’t a massive difference. As with fermenting and cooking, sprouting does also remove many of the anti-nutrient compounds in mature grains; anti-nutrients inhibit the absorption of nutrients and are essentially a chemical defense intended to keep things from eating too many of them. I’m not sure whether these anti-nutrients inhibit nutrient absorption in avian species, but they do in humans.

                  If you have access to an avian vet, one thing you might also consider is getting blood work done in 6-12 months. (Maybe do it once every 12-18 months thereafter.) That way, your vet can determine if there’s anything outside normal boundaries and also compare later test results to initial baseline test results in each duck.

                  Last thing: another super healthy supplemental treat that ducks love is minnows/small fish. Obviously, these are very high in protein so it’s not something you’d want to provide in abundance regularly. But they’re part of a duck’s natural diet and loaded with good nutrition. We occasionally buy live minnows from pet stores here and put them in a bowl of water – our ducks go absolutely crazy for them.

                • Beth
                  January 31, 2024 at 10:42 pm

                  Thank you that is very helpful, I appreciate your thought and research!!

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            Debbie Fleischer
            August 13, 2023 at 7:47 pm

            Hi Aaron, as I was reading your feeding article, I noticed that you were buying eggs. When I first started my chicken and duck adventures, I was overrun with eggs. No one wanted to keep getting eggs daily. So I remembered that an old friend of my family had given me a big ceramic crock that she used to glass eggs in when she had a farm. My arm was just healing from a break so I couldn’t lift it. I got a food grade plastic bucket, 3 gallon, with a lid. Looked up the ratios of hydrated lime to water and started glassing eggs. Every day I added more, even duck eggs which people say not to do. Kept making more solution. Finally had a 3 gallon bucket full of eggs. Everyone says they have to be pointed a certain way and I couldn’t ever get them to do that. I used them all winter, spring when I needed a lot for a year and a half. Each time before I used them I’d test in a water bath. Out of all those eggs, I think I might have had 1-2 that were bad or cracked. Used them mostly for frittatas omelets etc. So it is possible to do. I had my container under the stairs. No temp control. Never moved. Giving you a little info for a change. Lol

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              Aaron von Frank
              August 14, 2023 at 2:06 pm

              Thanks, Debbie! We’ve heard of water glassing eggs but have never tried it. Our family actually eats so many eggs that we’ve never been overwhelmed on the production side. Plus, we have neighbors, friends, and other family that are always happy to have any of our extra eggs. Once all of our new female ducks start producing, we may have to give water glassing a try.

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            N
            July 27, 2023 at 3:46 pm

            I’m sorry, but if the Tyrant is an ‘organic gardener’, then why is she not using an organic feed for her ducks? Mazuri is NOT ORGANIC!! I just called them and asked about the ingredients of Mazuri Waterfowl Breeder – the first three ingredients, in order of amount, are: corn, de-hulled soybean meal, and wheat – we know every one of them highly adulterated. Mazuri says they are within the FDA guidelines for glyphosate residues, but let’s be real – the FDA and Monsanto have a revolving door, they’re basically one and the same company, which is why corruption within the FDA is so rampant. And glyphosate is now known to cause leaky gut syndrome in humans (and probably ducks, as well), and crosses the blood-brain barrier, and who knows what else it does that hasn’t been discovered yet. Who wants that? I’m sorry, but I just can’t believe an “organic gardener” would feed toxic trash to the ducks she loves … and eat their toxic eggs. Yes, it’s a matter of time for all the glyphosate consumed shows up as a physical ailment, eventually it will, and I’m not willing to eat it or feed it to my ducks!

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              Aaron von Frank
              July 27, 2023 at 4:53 pm

              We’d love to be able to feed our ducks certified organic food. Problem: It’s currently impossible to find a certified organic duck food that’s specifically formulated for waterfowl/ducks, much less one that’s in kibble form. Chickens and ducks have different nutritional needs, so using organic chicken-specific feed (which is easy to find) or feed that claims to be formulated for chickens and ducks isn’t viable. Certified organic duckling feed is available, but that’s a different formulation than what’s ideal for mature ducks. (And any time we raise ducklings, they get certified organic crumble.)   

              When we first started raising ducks over a decade ago, we were using organic Scratch & Peck feed for our mature ducks and some of our girls were just picking out the bits they liked and not eating the rest, unbeknownst to us. One of them ultimately ended up dying as a result. Hence our desire to use kibble. 

              If there was a certified organic duck kibble/pellet feed that was on the market today, we’d be using it. Since there isn’t, we’re using the best available alternative we have, and the one that our avian vet recommends. We have some ducks that are 10 years old and have been consuming Mazuri waterfowl feed from the time they reached maturity.

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            Grace
            June 16, 2023 at 7:40 am

            Thank you so much for your blog!! As a new duck parent to 3 welsh harlequin ladies, I found myself here A LOT. This article has been extremely helpful as they are approaching 6 weeks old. I’ve been watching YouTube videos on fermented whole grain food for ducks and was considering trying Scratch and Pecks corn free whole grain mix fermented for at least morning feedings and then possibly doing some pellets as well later in the day. They free range the backyard to supplement their diet. Have you experimented with fermented foods or have any thoughts on that topic?

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 16, 2023 at 10:23 am

              Thanks for your kind words, and glad to hear the information we provide has been helpful for you in raising your ducklings and ducks! Fermented foods can be great for your ducks! Frankly, the reason we don’t go that route regularly is lack of time – or maybe more honestly, laziness. Ha. You’ll still need to make sure you’re paying careful attention to the macro- and micronutrient profile of your feed, even though the microbial action boosts some of the nutrients and makes them more bioavailable. Best wishes!

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            connie
            May 20, 2023 at 11:18 am

            i have 3 young ducks don’t know if their boys or girls. .I will be running them with chickens soon. What can I feed them. Their just as pets. thanks

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            Christi
            April 13, 2023 at 12:14 pm

            The lowest protein I can find around my area is Tucker Milling Non GMO 16.5% protein, but it is still over 3% calcium, and I offer free choice calcium. My ducks and chickens get it because I have a mixed flock that wander and forage. I like it because it is corn & soy free. I know some people with chicken egg allergies can eat duck eggs easier, and there is also information out there that it helps if the feed is soy and corn free. My niece cannot eat eggs from chickens that have been fed oats because of her oat allergy. Most people I talk to at the feed stores think I am crazy looking for a 13%-15% maintainer feed. They haven’t been on this feed terribly long and I just cut out all the scratch feed. Hopefully this will go better than what I was feeding, which was a 22% layer because that’s what the feed store suggested.

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              Aaron von Frank
              April 16, 2023 at 11:25 am

              Hi Christi! Thanks for putting so much care and attention on your ducks’ health (and your chickens, too). 22% protein is way higher than what our avian vet recommends for ducks, so dropping to 16.5% protein is certainly an improvement. As we note in this article, Mazuri waterfowl feed breeder/layer formula is 17% protein, 2.5-3.5% calcium. If your ducks are able to free-range in a large and rich environment, they’re also going to be able to get worms, slugs, snails, and other high-protein supplemental food (plus nutrient-rich greens and seeds which are higher in carbohydrates). Bottom line: it sounds like your ducks are positioned for good health and longevity. Just keep a close eye on two things:
              1) their egg shells to make sure the shells are not showing abnormalities (deposits, thin shells, etc), and
              2) laying too long (we want our ducks to stop egg production in the fall and not pick back up until late winter-early spring so their bodies have time to recover and remineralize).

              Side note: We’ve only briefly experimented with this but you might want to try it as well… acorns. Wild ducks eat acorns in the fall. One year, we cracked large white oak acorns for our ducks and cut the nut meat into small bits. Lot of work, but our ducks enjoyed it and their yolks were even more beautiful than normal. So that could be a good alternate feed source for you that avoids oats, corn, and soy. Acorns can also be made into great human food as we detail here: https://www.tyrantfarms.com/diy-how-to-make-acorn-flour-acorn-recipes/

              Hope this helps and good luck to you and your flock!

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            Diana Cohen Robinson
            March 15, 2023 at 5:57 pm

            I have a 15 month old Pekiin duck girl who has a decided limp and I don’t know what to do. There are no vets in San Francisco that treat ducks. She most days lays an egg as does her sister and given a choice willl spend most of the day in her swimming pool as it soothes her leg I suspect. Can you offer any suggestions on what I could do to help her leg heal? I’ve checked the underside of her foot pad but I don’t see any cuts or obvious injuries.

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              Aaron von Frank
              March 16, 2023 at 11:17 am

              Hi Diana, and sorry to hear about your duck’s leg injury. It’s very hard to recommend a treatment regimen without a diagnosis. It sounds like you’ve ruled out bumblefoot (reference: https://www.tyrantfarms.com/how-to-treat-bumblefoot-in-ducks-safely-effectively-and-humanely-with-video/), which would be the most likely culprit. After ruling out bumblefoot, a vet would likely start by checking for hot, swollen joints which could pinpoint an injury. If that didn’t yield anything obvious, they’d likely next do a radiograph to see what’s going on inside. It could be a break, a strain, arthritis, or an infection. Again, depending on the diagnosis, the treatment regimen would vary. Pain meds, activity restriction, and possibly some sort of wrap or brace could be used to treat a physical injury, whereas antibiotics would likely be prescribed for an infection. To help try to figure out what’s happening, some questions: 1. Did the limp come on slowly or did it just happen all of a sudden one day? 2. Do you see swelling or feel any hot joints? 3. Does your duck ever lay soft, misshapen, or bumpy eggs? 4. Is it easy for the duck to get in and out of the pool, i.e. is the pool level with the ground?

              Also, a bit of bad news: due to their larger size, Pekins are known to be more prone to leg injuries than smaller breeds.

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            Me
            July 29, 2022 at 10:26 am

            Hi! I came across your site a few weeks ago and have been referencing back to it frequently so thank you!! We are new to ducks and I had some questions… we have 6 ducklings (pekins, anconas, and cayugas-2 of each all female). They are about 7-8 weeks old. Should we be feeding them the maintainer feed now? And give them access to the oyster shells now? Or is it a bit too early? Also we only add in layer feed if the eggs are soft, otherwise it is strictly the maintainer and the oyster shell correct? Thank you!

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              Aaron von Frank
              July 30, 2022 at 10:54 am

              Hi! A little more detail on our duck feeding recommendations:

              >1-2 weeks old: 18-20% protein (ideally crumble feed, not pellets)
              >Between 3-8 weeks old (where you are now): 15-16% protein (crumble, not pellets – we mix organic old fashioned oats into their crumble to lower protein levels)
              >9-18 weeks or until they start laying: 13-14% protein, plus make oyster shell available in separate bowl in case they need it as their bodies begin to initiate egg production
              >Laying hen: *15-17% protein and 2.5-3% calcium, plus make oyster shell available in separate bowl in case they need it (*protein % varies by point in season, health of birds, and egg shell quality – this assumes a focus on health not maximum egg production)
              >Mature non-laying ducks and drakes: 13-15% protein, plus make oyster shell available in separate bowl in case they need it (oyster shell available for females, males shouldn’t need it)

              For reference, here are the numbers on the Mazuri waterfowl feed which is the brand our avian vet recommends:

              >starter: 20% crude protein (these are pellets; we actually start our ducklings on a certified organic starter crumble)
              >maintenance feed: 14% crude protein. 0.8-1.3% calcium
              >breeder/layer feed: 17% protein, 2.5-3.5% calcium

              What we’ve found over the past three years with a lower protein regimen for our laying hens is that the approach requires careful attention to your flock. While sunlight exposure + daylight hours dictate hormonal shifts which trigger physiological responses like egg production, other environmental cues like protein levels in their diet also help to influence egg production. What we’re basically trying to do is get our ducks to lay fewer eggs each year by starting egg production later in the season and ending egg production sooner in late summer/early fall. That’s still A LOT of eggs for a duck to produce. As a visual reference, imagine a bell curve overlaying a time period between late winter through late summer. At the beginning and ends of the bell curve are when we mix in the least amount of breeder/layer feed and at the peak of the curve (in mid summer) is when we mix in the most breeder/maintainer feed.

              We fully acknowledge that this is an unorthodox duck feeding approach and there isn’t research data to draw on in order to determine efficacy and overall health effects of this approach on domestic duck populations. However, anecdotally, we can say that we’ve had no serious illnesses or deaths in our flock since implementing this feed approach whereas we had fairly regular health issues when we stuck to the conventional high protein approach.

              *In the summer, we also provide supplements like Rooster Booster in their water, plus give them lots of greens, fresh tomatoes, and other treats (See our 10 summer care tips for ducks which are applicable now: https://www.tyrantfarms.com/summer-care-tips-backyard-ducks/). Our ducks also get to forage out in our gardens for 1-2 hours each night when we’re out, which means they’re also eating worms, slugs, snails, etc. Heat and heat-stress reduces calcium absorption, so it’s especially important to provide shade, supplements, cool swimming water, fans, or anything else you can do during summer when they’re laying eggs to keep your ducks happy, healthy, and in top shape.

              Hope this helps and please let us know if you have any questions!

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            Donette
            July 16, 2022 at 5:30 pm

            I’m trying to dwtermine how much feed per duck. I have 2 pet Welsh Harlequin 10 weeks old. They are out in pond and garden to forage all day and get 2 cups crumble when they go in thw coop at night. Lately they have syarted begging to go in the coop a couple times a day and looks like its just they prefer grain to foraging, like they are lazy since raised alone with no mother to teach them to forage. How much grain does each duck need?

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              Aaron von Frank
              July 18, 2022 at 8:32 am

              Ducks eat a lot more when they’re laying eggs to account for all the extra calories and nutrients it takes to produce an egg. At 10 weeks old, your girls aren’t laying eggs yet (that usually starts at around 16 weeks old unless low sunlight hours delay the process to the following spring). However, they’re still going to need a lot of food and nutrition which they might not be able to get from foraging the same spots each day. Remember, wild Mallards can fly to new foraging spots; domestic flightless ducks like Welsh harlequins can’t. And they need plenty of good nutrition and calories to develop and remain healthy.

              Our girls are also out foraging their fenced backyard all day then the rest of the gardens with us in the evening, but we still give them unfettered access to a bowl of Mazuri waterfowl feed as well (this time of year, it’s usually 50% layer / 50% maintenance or even slightly higher on the maintenance percentages). They eat when they need to and that doesn’t seem to diminish their desire to forage, which is more for fun and supplementation than the majority of their diet.

              It sounds like with your situation though, that you need to use your ducks’ feed as an incentive for them to come in to their coops at night, otherwise it might be hard to get them inside. If so, maybe start the day with a cup of food per duck in outdoor bowls. Hopefully, they finish it by late afternoon but it keeps them well enough fed during the day. Then they’ll still be hungry enough by the time it’s cooping hour for them to want to come inside.

              Hope this helps!

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            Evie
            July 16, 2022 at 1:48 pm

            Hi, thanks for posting these articles! I would like your opinion on two things. For background, we have 5 ducklings that are around 4 weeks old (we’ve had them for about 3 weeks). Some of them are beginning to quack and they’ve been growing tiny feathers. So far they seem like happy healthy ducks. That is, they walk around, eat, drink, play in the water, and let me know every time an airplane goes by.
            My first question is about protein and feed in general. We’ve been feeding them what the farm supply store said they feed the ducklings. The bag says it’s “meat bird crumbles” and (suspiciously) advertises itself for every kind of bird of all ages with no needed supplements whatsoever. Based on my internet research, I’ve been sprinkling nutritional yeast over their feed for niacin. As for protein, when I looked at the bag it said 20%. This seems very high for ducklings that we want for pets/eggs. What would you recommend I do about this?
            My other question is on foraging. I’ve been letting the ducklings outside for a couple hours each day the past few days. They do a lot of foraging, but I’ve also seen them try to eat a lot of things that just can’t be eaten. Are my ducklings really foraging? Or are they just practicing?

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              Aaron von Frank
              July 18, 2022 at 7:56 am

              Hi Evie! Answers to your two questions below:

              1. I’ll copy & paste from our how to raise ducklings guide/article (https://www.tyrantfarms.com/how-to-raise-ducklings-a-step-by-step-guide/) since it directly answers your question:

              “Ducklings (like chicks) require higher levels of protein the first two weeks of life, 18-20% protein to be exact. When your ducklings are 3 weeks old, bump the protein levels of your chick feed down to 15-16% by mixing in 20% organic old fashioned oats to their crumble.

              This encourages your ducklings to grow at a healthy, normal rate vs. the more accelerated rate commonly recommended for broilers & commercial egg layers (as per duck expert, Dave Holderread, in Storay’s Guide To Raising Ducks).

              This step is extremely important because sustained higher levels of protein can cause leg and wing deformities in addition to causing kidney and liver damage.”

              Since your ducks are now at 4 weeks, you’ll definitely want to taper down their protein percentages immediately as detailed above. And keep utilizing the nutritional yeast.

              2. Yes, a duckling’s “foraging” often entails picking at inedible things like brown leaves, sticks, etc. This is how they learn their world and what parts of it they can eat. Obviously, you’ll want to be very careful that there aren’t small pieces of plastic, metal screws, and similarly dangerous objects that could kill them if swallowed. If they’re just out foraging in your lawn (which hopefully doesn’t contain any pesticides) then they’ll be perfectly fine to forage away.

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            Diana Robinson
            January 22, 2022 at 12:52 am

            Thanks for all the excellent information about diet and oyster shell calcium etc. I live in San Francisco and my two girls have a duck house and a swimming pool with the water changed daily. I buy Bar Ale duck grower pellets and feed my girls tomatoes, lettuce, meal worms, oyster shells sprinkled on top, and I grind up their hard boiled eggs and sprinkle that over their food. Now I know to separate out the grit and leave it for them separately.

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              Aaron von Frank
              January 23, 2022 at 7:21 am

              Glad to hear that, Diana, thanks! Yes, it’s definitely a good idea to let your ducks determine how much grit they need rather than putting it in their food. Sounds like you’ve got a nice setup for your flock.

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            Laura
            October 25, 2021 at 4:55 pm

            We adopted two male Welsh Harlequins this summer and it was a struggle for me to find information on how best to feed them for their optimal health and longevity, rather than for meat production. After a lot of reading around I decided to keep them on growers pellet (15% protein) and they free range for live treats all day. Their favourite treat is peas and they demand these daily, which we happily provide. They also enjoy leafy greens whenever we have some. So great to find a source of info from others who are keeping ducks for their wonderful personalities and company and not compromising their health for our own agendas. Glad to read that what I’ve done with their diet sounds similar – it’s reassuring! Great to find this page.

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              Aaron von Frank
              October 25, 2021 at 5:19 pm

              Thanks for your kind words, Laura! Yes, you definitely don’t want to feed high protein layer feed to drakes. Good on you for figuring that out and focusing on the long-term health of your ducks.

              We’re a few years into our new feeding regimen for our girls, and are happy to report zero reproductive health problems in our flock since. We do mix in some higher protein feed to their maintainer feed during laying season (especially in summer) but maintain a much lower protein diet than is generally recommended for maximum egg production. They stopped laying about a month ago, and we’re ok with that. We’d rather have healthier, longer-lived ducks than more eggs. 🙂

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            John warner
            September 23, 2021 at 7:42 pm

            Hi Aaron! Fantastic article, such a knowledgable read.
            Regarding the crushed oyster shells, would you offer that all year round or just during laying period?

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              Aaron von Frank
              September 24, 2021 at 12:35 pm

              Thanks, John! We offer oyster shell to our ducks year round. It will pretty well go untouched when the ducks aren’t laying – they might take a nibble here and there as-needed. However, a few weeks before they start laying again, they’ll start eating it. This is a good indicator that eggs are on the way, which is helpful to know so you can start checking their coop in the morning. Note that you’re not actually wasting or having to refill the oyster shell when they’re not eating it since oyster shell doesn’t go bad.

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            Monika Jarosz
            June 27, 2021 at 2:12 pm

            Hello, Many thanks for the article. I’m so glad to find your blog as I am a proud parent of 9 Muscovy ducks. I rise them as pets and have very close relationship with all of them. During last 6 years my main worry has been my girls health related to egg lying. 3 years ago I lost one of my duck to hernia caused by excessive egg lying. My heart was broken for many years. I live in Mexico thus have no access to regular brands of food for waterfowl. There are only pallets for chickens (mainly medicated). I opted for what people around give their ducks – corn. I complement it with kale, lettuce, zucchini from my garden. Sometimes, I feed them earthworms and dry grounded fish. They free range. Still my 8 girls lay eggs obsessively. I provide them with calcium and when I observe they’re about to lay eggs hoping they just lay a few. My only solution so far has been letting them sit on artificial eggs (I bought) for a couple of weeks. I’m wondering if you ever tried to use fully homemade pallets that could support the healthy diet that decreases egg production? If so, I would truly appreciate the recipe as well as any additional tips. Thank you so much.
            Monika

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 28, 2021 at 12:41 pm

              Hi Monika! If your girls are still healthy and doing well after 6 years under your current care/feeding regimen, chances are you’re doing things right. Otherwise, health problems would have become evident by now. Granted, just as in people, duck care can and should change with age. Ducks will naturally lay fewer eggs as they get older, but you may want them to lay even fewer eggs each year to make sure they don’t put too much stress on their bodies. As you said, you can make them go broody with fake eggs, which triggers a hormonal response that shuts down egg production. We’ve made our ducks go broody for similar reasons using similar methods as we detail here: https://www.tyrantfarms.com/why-and-how-to-make-a-duck-go-broody/.

              As far as making our own customized feed for our ducks: we’ve never done that or had the need to do it since we have access to high quality waterfowl-specific feeds here in the US. Frankly, without a science lab and a way to precisely measure macro and micronutrient content of a do-it-yourself duck feed, I’d be very wary about going that approach since ducks’ nutritional needs are pretty precise. In your situation, it sounds like your garden + foraging may be helping them get the nutrients they need to stay healthy since corn by itself would not have an optimal macro and micronutrient profile for a duck’s long-term health.

              Bottom line: it sounds like what you’re doing is working, so drastic changes aren’t warranted. Perhaps the best way for you to reduce egg production in your ducks is to force your girls to go broody with fake eggs at a certain point during the year, rather than changing their feed regimen.

              Best of luck to your and your flock, and cheers from the United States!

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            Katie
            January 4, 2021 at 3:06 pm

            Wow. This is great stuff and you are being so generous with your advice. Will try to support you through your linked items. This is our first year with 13 khaki campbells… we are in a colder higher elevation climate in SW Colorado for reference. We have a few things we are trying to work out but top of the list is food (we will try your recommendations) AND birds flocking to eat it no matter where we hide it…under shelter, etc. Ducks pretty much open range (large electric fenced area to protect from predators) during the day and in the coop at night. Appreciate any ideas! Also: love your pond blog and we are adding it to our notes for next year.

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              Aaron von Frank
              January 5, 2021 at 12:25 pm

              Thanks, Katie! We actually have a good friend who keeps geese and ducks in the high desert of Colorado (Dolores). She uses Mazuri waterfowl feed, which is also what we switched to a while back as per our avian vet’s recommendation. Mazuri waterfowl feed is designed to float on water, so she feeds her ducks and geese in their pond each day by simply tossing their food in the water. No way for other birds to get it. So, you might consider putting their food in bowls of water or whatever swimming pond you have for them?

              *One possible downside to this approach: it’s entirely possible that the nutrients in the feed will degrade fairly quickly in water if it’s not consumed within some short time window (15-30 minutes)? This is entirely speculative on our part, but something to consider. We’d hate to give advice that could cause some sort of nutritional deficiency in your ducks over time.

              Another option is to put a cover/shelter over the food with something reflective on top, like an aluminum pie pan. If it’s set up where your ducks can’t see it but birds looking down from above can, it could help to keep them away.

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              Monika Jarosz
              July 28, 2021 at 10:23 pm

              Hello Aaron
              Thank you so much for taking the time to respond in such a detail. Yes, it seems forcing them to get broody is the only option for me. Probably improving a bit their diet since the produce from the garden isn’t always available. They get sick from now and then, respiratory and some parasites, typical to the environment we live in. I have great avian vet who is able to help me even though she is 2 hours away. However, many times I rely on natural medicine – plants and alcohol free tinctures.
              I find your site extremely useful as you are doing building your world around ducks well being. I found great tips and solutions to the aspects of duck rising that I was facing all alone down here. Many thanks for sharing your love and experiences.
              Cheers from Mexico!

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            Adam Mekky
            December 15, 2020 at 10:36 am

            I live in England, and have been searching on the internet, and in the U.S, maintainer duck feed is sold. But I am unable to locate a UK website which supplies maintainer feed. However, there is such thing as grower/finisher pellets. Are they the same thing please?

            Also, I really love this website. It has helped me loads.

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              Aaron von Frank
              December 15, 2020 at 1:08 pm

              Hi Adam! Glad to hear our site has been helpful for your duck raising questions. Since different countries may use different food labels on their duck feed, the only way to be certain is as follows:
              -What we call “maintainer” feed here in the US is 13-15% protein and about 1% calcium;
              -Our “layer” feed is 16-17% protein and about 3% calcium.
              The macronutrient breakdown/percentages should be provided on the feed bag you’re considering so match them up to be sure. Hope this helps and let us know if you have other questions.

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            Connie Cerne
            September 19, 2020 at 7:35 am

            I love your website. I was wondering if the diet would be the same for drakes? Thank you!

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            friendlytoanimals
            August 6, 2020 at 4:04 pm

            I can’t tell you how happy I am about your website/blog. Your approach to duck rearing matches my thoughts on animals, but as I’m new to ducks, the advice is well received.
            Question if you have time: After reading a lot here I switched my ducks (they are about 3 months old) to Mazuri kibble. The thing is, they hardly eat it. They seem to prefer foraging. There is always kibble available to them, so should I trust that they will eat as much as they need? They just eat a little bit of kibble each day, seemingly surviving mostly on greens and slugs and grubs foraged around the yard.

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            Ashlee P
            December 3, 2019 at 1:46 pm

            Love this. I feed our girls Mazuri waterfowl kibble and they have a dish of oyster shell for whenever they want some. My vet said the same about keeping them off the layer feed.

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              Aaron von Frank
              December 3, 2019 at 2:26 pm

              Glad to hear that this duck diet is being prescribed by more vets! Hopefully it will translate to healthier, longer-lived pet & backyard ducks.

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                Michelle
                November 20, 2020 at 7:01 pm

                This is our first time raising ducks. We like the idea of separating the oyster shells and using maintenance feed but aren’t sure if we should leave the oyster shells accessible all year. I have been using this method since our ducks reached laying age a few months ago, but now that it is getting colder, do I put the oyster shells away?. Do the hens completely stop laying in the winter months? I have been consistently getting an egg a day from the layers…but we live in the south and rarely get a true freeze. Thanks for all the great information!

                • Aaron von Frank
                  November 22, 2020 at 12:12 pm

                  Hi Michelle! We provide access to oyster shell all year, but… they know when their bodies need the extra calcium and lose any interest in the oyster shell once they don’t. We leave oyster shell out year round regardless because: 1) sometimes, some of the hens will continue laying much longer than the others so they need the extra calcium, 2) they might start needing a little extra calcium boost from time to time and/or as their bodies begin preparing to lay again. Basically, it can’t hurt to make calcium available, but you’ll notice it pretty well goes untouched during non-laying months.

                  As for when you can expect your ducks to stop laying eggs, the answer is unfortunately “it depends.” Lots of factors: your climate, amount of sunlight they get, their nutritional intake, their age, and probably a few other factors as well. We see laying variability (that’s hard to make sense of) within our flock even though they all experience the same environmental factors. Generally, they stop laying around this time of year and pick back up in spring as light levels + insect and edible plant abundance increases.

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              Dianne Newbegin
              December 3, 2019 at 10:06 pm

              Same here…Mazuri maintainer…Mazuri Breeder also…mainly maintainer with oyster shells as a side dish…:)

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                Aaron von Frank
                December 6, 2019 at 1:36 pm

                Nice! Out of curiosity, have you had any reproductive health issues with your ducks since adopting this dietary regimen?

                • Dianne Newbegin
                  January 8, 2020 at 9:58 am

                  I have not !

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          Ducks

          Are ducks dirty? Top tips for keeping your duck areas clean.

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          Just because ducks are fowl doesn’t mean they have to be foul. How you set up and maintain your ducks’ living areas makes a huge difference as to whether or not your ducks are dirty.  


          Most people are accustomed to the notion of owning a cat or dog and have a general idea of what’s involved with the upkeep of those animals. Now imagine a scenario in which a friend of yours kept their cat or dog permanently confined to a small space in their yard that was never cleaned or maintained. 

          That spot would get pretty disgusting pretty fast, right? Upon seeing this scenario unfold, would you then say that “dogs are dirty” or “cats are dirty”? Or would you avoid disparaging the animals and instead tell your friend “maybe you should figure out a different setup and maintenance approach for your animal’s living area.” 

          Well, the same thing is true of ducks… Ducks can be absolutely disgusting (or not), depending on the setup and maintenance practices their human caregivers employ. 

          Mary/Marty the duck does not like being called dirty.

          Mary/Marty the duck does not like being called dirty.

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            Courtney R.
            January 31, 2024 at 4:52 pm

            Is there any particular type of wood you recommend for the mulch or can we use anything so long as it is triple-mulched? Also, do you shovel it up and change it the way one changes the bedding in their house? Our team spends most of their time freebirding around our backyard but they do go into an enclosed area at night which they turned into a mud pit in about 6 months.

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              Aaron von Frank
              January 31, 2024 at 10:04 pm

              For our duck coop, we use large flake pine bedding from Tractor Supply. Another really good option is hemp bedding, but it’s more expensive than large flake pine. We use a modified deep litter method. We remove all the bedding from the coop every 4-6 months, put it in a compost pile, then start adding new bedding to the coop each day when the coop is prepped for put-up time.

              For our backyard where our ducks spend their day, we use triple ground mulch, which is predominantly a hardwood mix. We don’t shovel and change the mulch. Instead, we leave it to slowly biodegrade and turn into rich soil right there on the spot. The carbon-rich mulch does a good job of locking up the nitrogen-rich duck waste as it biodegrades. We usually put out a few inch thick layer of mulch at least once per year. Since the mulch biodegrades more rapidly in our hot, humid summers (meaning there’s not much left by late summer) and we have very rainy winters, we usually try to always get a round of mulch put out in the fall so things don’t get too messy during the winter months.

              Hope this answers your questions!

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                Courtney R.
                January 31, 2024 at 11:54 pm

                Thank you. That was very helpful. I just wanted to be sure we didn’t get anything that wouldn’t be harmful when they noodle around in it. Y’all’s website has been SO helpful and it’s really nice to read about folks who are as crazy about their duckies as I am!

                • Aaron von Frank
                  February 1, 2024 at 1:11 pm

                  Haha! Glad to hear our duck articles are helpful for other duck fanatics!

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            Miki
            December 7, 2023 at 2:24 pm

            Another wonderful article!! Our four happy girls (WHY is the happy duck stomp dance not common knowledge? Better keep it a secret to avoid increasing impulse duckling purchases!) have about half an acre back yard all told outside of their predator safe pen when they are allowed to free range (which they demand to be most of the day–and I’m lucky enough to be able to be home most of the day to supervise) and even that seemingly small number of ladies has made quite a few stinky duck mud pit locations (:

            I look forward to implementing a lot of these suggestions so that next summer the ladies can have just as much fun without me having to play cleaning catch up seemingly 24/7!!

            Thank you, Tyrants!

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              Aaron von Frank
              December 9, 2023 at 7:52 am

              Haha, thanks Miki! Don’t let the secret of the happy duck stomp dance out. 🙂 Glad this article will help you keep your ducks’ area cleaner moving forward.

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          Ducks Gardening

          How to build a backyard pond with a DIY biofilter

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          Since this DIY backyard pond article is fairly long and detailed, we’ve included a table of contents. You can quickly click the table links below to jump to specific parts of the article you’re interested in. Or you can read the whole article to get the best possible understanding of how and why to build a backyard pond, whether or not you have backyard ducks like we do!

          Table of contents

          1. Duck fanatics in search of DIY backyard pond
          2. Three ways a pond changed our ecosystem
          3. Pond-building expectations (time, cost, weather, work)
          4. DIY pond slideshow: from start to finish
          5. Step-by-step: How to build a backyard pond and biofilter
          6. Ongoing pond maintenance
          7. Itemized pond materials list

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            Amanda Zea
            June 30, 2024 at 7:21 pm

            Hi!
            We are planning on building a smaller version of this pond (around 300 gallons) for our ducks, but I am having a hard time seeing and visualizing the plumbing from the Laguna pump to the filter pond. I see the photos for setting up the PVC going into the filter pond and that makes complete sense, but looking at pictures of the Laguna pump online on Amazon, it looks like the outflow was made for attaching to a hose. How did you handle attaching the pump to PVC and did you just connect pieces of PVC as needed to get from the pump to the filter pool?
            Thanks! We are excited to get started on this project for our feathered friends!

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              Aaron von Frank
              July 1, 2024 at 12:02 pm

              Hi Amanda! Apologies for any confusion. There’s no single right way to plumb a duck pond and/or connect the plumbing between your pump and the filter pond(s). It sounds like with your setup, flex piping/hose may be the way to go. You’ll probably need some sort of heavy duty clip or tie to attach it to the pump. Whatever you use to attach your pipe to the pump, make sure it’s easy to remove when the pump is underwater but needs to be turned off and removed for cleaning. The way we attached our pump (which was tied in with PVC) was to use a 1 1/2 inch to 1 1/4 inch threaded nipple reducer that then tied into the existing hardware supplied with the Laguna pump. We also ended up adding cutoff valves to our PVC at the top of our filter pond, which I don’t think you can do with flex hose/pipe. Reason: when you cut your pumps off, the water sucks out and back in to the pond. When your filter ponds are mucky, that means a lot of the muck will get sucked back into the main pond when the pump is turned off, which isn’t ideal. Again, there are different ways you could plumb things so don’t feel the need to do exactly what we did. Also, you can always redo things and iterate later, so don’t be too stressed that you have to get things exactly “right” the first time. Good luck!

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            Pond Sealer
            February 14, 2024 at 2:27 am

            A very detailed and informative bio filter pond building blog. I’d like to recommend a pond sealer that can withstand seasonal freezes and thaws from -62 F to 130 F scale. Pond Pro 2000, it’s a butyl liquid rubber one-coat solution that never needs a primer, so it’s time and cost saving product. It’s UV-resistant, puncture-resistant, and non-toxic, so it’s 100% safe for fish, plants, and other aquatic life within the pond. It’s the only pond sealer in the market that has more than 30 years of history of success and offers a 5-year warranty. Its coverage on a smooth surface is 50 sq. ft. per gallon. Avoid rain the first three hours of application. Any leftover material can be stored for up to 2 years. It’s available in black and white colors and in quarts and gallons.

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            zidane
            August 18, 2023 at 11:08 pm

            thank you for the article

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            Kara LeBaron
            April 15, 2023 at 9:33 pm

            We just bought 4 runner ducks & don’t have the space for building a full pond like this. I was hoping to create some small bath for them using a bio filter so I don’t have to dump the water every morning but don’t know if it’s possible. We just are looking at buying a 50-100gal pool and putting it underground. Then using a filter & pump and water aerator to get the water moving. Will this even work to clean out the duck solids or will this be way too small of a pond to filter? We also live in zone 6A and I’m worried about freezing. If I add a de-icer in the winter, will it help keep it drinkable for the ducks or does the water need to be moving with a waterfall to keep the water drinkable? And if not, any suggestions on what I can do to have drinkable water that doesn’t freeze in the winter for these ducks?

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              Aaron von Frank
              April 16, 2023 at 11:05 am

              Hi Kara! There’s a lot to unwrap here… pond size, aeration, water quality, and freeze-prevention. Yes, you could do a miniature version of the pond we detail in this article and things should work the same. In Zone 6A, an in-ground pond with moving water/waterfall and a pond de-icer should stay pretty well unfrozen for most of the winter. Having aerators and/or a waterfall to help bring oxygen into the water is essential for water quality, as is: a) establishing a healthy pond microbiome of beneficial bacteria and other cleaning microorganisms, and b) filter pond/pads to help remove solids. Or you could opt for a different, simpler setup. For instance, in the winter, you could just have heated water bowls and only provide access to a small pool on days when temps are above freezing. Hope this helps and good luck to you and your flock!

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            April
            April 6, 2023 at 9:18 am

            Hello!! I’m so impressed, my husband and I are planning our duck pond details. Just made our Amazon purchase, the links were so easy, thank you! Quick question: how did you know what rocks to order? The materials list states “2-4,000 lbs rock”. How would I go about ordering this at a landscape supplier to get the type of rocks you have?

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              Susan von Frank
              April 8, 2023 at 11:09 pm

              Hi April! We’d recommend going to a local landscape supply house and picking out some sort of fieldstone product with pieces that are: a) about 3-4x larger than standard bricks, b) don’t have sharp edges, and c) are in-line with your aesthetic desires.

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            Anita
            February 5, 2023 at 2:26 pm

            Hi Aaron,
            Just discovered and really enjoying your content. Wondering what type of fish are best in a duck pond? I’ve read some fish can harm birds, and some birds will eat the fish. Appreciate your recs!

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              Aaron von Frank
              February 6, 2023 at 12:43 pm

              Hi Anita! We went to a nearby PetCo and got about 20 feeder fish as a treat for our ducks one day years back. The fish were maybe a couple inches long each. We’re not certain of the species (there could have been multiple species, but some were black, some were orange, and some were mottled colored). We dumped them in our pond and our ducks went crazy eating them for about 20 minutes. We thought they ate them, and we didn’t think anything of it until a year later when I noticed a few fairly large fish swimming in the bottom of the pond one day. Sure enough, a few of them had survived and grown large enough not to be eaten by our ducks.

              The fish survived for about 5 years, including through our Zone 7b winters. Unfortunately, during a rushed annual pond cleaning, I accidentally killed them by exposing them to concentrated tap water for too long.

              Long story short: I’m not sure where you live, but if it’s a mild climate, you might try the same approach and get feeder fish from PetCo. Otherwise, you might consider some sort of native freshwater fish species that isn’t likely to have teeth or fins that could potentially harm a duck once they got large. We’ve decided not to have fish in our pond in the future since it adds more waste to the water and also complicates things whenever we have to clean out the pond. But that doesn’t mean that’s the right decision for you.

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            Alison Thibault
            January 28, 2023 at 8:19 pm

            What a great article I have loved following your work since I discovered you when I got my ducks this past spring. I really would like to build this pond, but it is a ways from my house and accessible electricity – wondering if you have any information or experience with solar powered pumps? Thanks so much, Alison

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              January 30, 2023 at 2:21 pm

              Hi and thanks, Alison! Unfortunately, we do not have experience with solar powered pumps for our pond. As long as the solar system you’re using has some sort of battery to store electricity, it should work fine. Otherwise, your pumps will stop working at night or on cloudy days, which wouldn’t be ideal.

              Before deciding what to do, you might want to price out both options: 1) running a dedicated hard-wired line with outlets to the duck pond area vs 2) installing a solar system with outlets. Our guess is it would probably be less money to run a line, especially if you can dig the trench yourself. If you have a handy friend or electrician who might do you a favor on the installation, Option 1 would be even less expensive since material costs would be comparatively low.

              Good luck and reach out any time you have questions as you get going!

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            brendan
            September 27, 2022 at 9:28 am

            Hey Aaron, Thanks for all this great info. We are looking to build a small pond for our 5 ducks. It is already in place I now just need to build the filter system. I wanted to confirm that you permanently plumbed your pump in place? Because I have seen some people use the flexible rubber tubing from the pump to filter pond. I would obviously worry about digging this into the ground and collapsing the tubing but I am also worried about permanently plumbing my pump in place as I am in a much colder climate than you (5a). I don’t think I will be able to keep the pond running all year. Was thinking I would have to empty it during the really cold months up here (jan/feb). Any suggestions for how I should plumb the pump? Is it still removable if you use pvc tubing and glue it?
            Thanks!

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              September 27, 2022 at 3:45 pm

              Hi Brendan! Yes, our pond plumbing is permanent. Maybe I should put “permanent” in air quotes because we could pretty easily remove and re-plumb it if we needed to. We’re in Zone 7b, so our winters are obviously way more moderate than yours. The coldest temps our pond has ever been through were multiple nights around 5°F with daytime temps rising into the low 20s. Our pond water surface mostly froze over but the pipes and pumps had no problems since the water was in constant motion.

              In your situation, it might well make sense to focus on the easiest possible setup for disconnecting and removing the pipes and pumps, e.g. go with accessible (not buried) flex tubing. Or at least do so for any plumbing that would be filled with water or submerged in water that might cause them to crack or shatter during the cold months.

              Hope this helps and good luck with your buildout! Feel free to reach out if you have any additional questions as you go.

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            Daisy
            August 11, 2022 at 11:58 pm

            Love all your duck articles! I have 4 ducks and I’m planning on building a pond like yours. Do you have a video of your pond setup anywhere?

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              Aaron von Frank
              August 12, 2022 at 8:15 am

              Hi and thanks, Daisy! No, unfortunately we don’t have a video. Next time we do our annual pond cleaning, we’ll try to make time to do a video as well.

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            Syd Catlin
            July 31, 2022 at 1:21 pm

            Hello! I help run a therapy farm for kids and we have roughly 17 ducks/ducklings. We want to build a pond similar to yours, I’m just wondering how many bog filters you would recommend putting in?

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              Aaron von Frank
              July 31, 2022 at 2:09 pm

              You’ll need 23 bog filters with that number of ducks. Just kidding! It actually depends… You could run the exact same pond setup we have with that number of ducks, but you’d just need to clean your filters and pond more frequently. Or you could simply make a much larger single filter pond, which would be a lot easier and affordable from a materials and plumbing standpoint versus having multiple smaller filter ponds. The other consideration is whether you plan to allow your ducks full access to the pond throughout the day or limit access, since the less time they’re in the pond pooping, molting feathers, etc, the less pond maintenance will be required. Sorry not to give you a crystal clear answer, but those are the questions you’ll need to think through before deciding on the best duck pond design for your situation.

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            Randall
            June 26, 2022 at 8:30 pm

            Awesome project and follow through, glad it has worked out for you! I’m curious about the electrical bill, between the two pumps running 24/7, the occasional freeze protection and what not, any idea the electrical consumption rate?

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 27, 2022 at 11:16 am

              Thanks Randall! I wish we could tell you the exact energy costs of the pond pump, but we just don’t know. I can say that Laguna pumps are known as the most energy efficient pumps on the market (they utilize Watts energy saving technology), and we didn’t notice any appreciable difference in our overall energy costs after installing our pond.

              As for the pond de-icer, that’s only something we use occasionally during REALLY cold snaps where the pond freezes over. Since we live in a mild climate (Zone 7b), that might mean we use a de-icer for a few weeks each year. Some winters, we don’t have to use our pond de-icer at all, so $0 energy costs!

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            Lydia B
            May 25, 2022 at 11:47 am

            Hi Aaron & Susan!

            Thanks so much for posting so much helpful duck info. I am a new duck mama with eight 1-month-old ducklings and just finished building a pond for them that follows your design. 🙂 They love it!
            I have a question – well, several, really, I’d love to have more info/any advice on how you handle your pond plants.

            Which varieties do you have?
            How do you plant them – baskets, bags?
            Which kinds will your ducks not eat/do you have to protect?
            How many plants do you have?
            Do you have to plant new plants every year?
            Where do you buy your pond plants?
            Are there any varieties you’ve had that you will not get again/particular favorites?

            Sorry for so many questions! XD
            Thank you!

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              Aaron von Frank
              May 25, 2022 at 2:55 pm

              Thanks Lydia! Glad our DIY backyard duck pond article was helpful for you — and your ducks! Answers to your questions about duck pond plants:

              With repeat exposure, ducks will destroy/kill pretty much any SMALL/YOUNG plant you put in their pond, even if the plants are technically inedible. Case in point: yellow water iris (Iris pseudacorus). Years ago, we saw this plant growing on the shoreline at my parent’s lakehouse and brought some home to put in our duck pond. This plant is considered an invasive species in our region, but we can keep it contained to our pond area so decided to give it a try. (Yellow water irises are also great at slurping nitrogen and phosphorus out of water, which ducks produce in abundance – ha!)

              We figured the iris’s large rhizomes, tough leaves, and inedibility factor (they’re considered poisonous) would be enough to keep the plant safe from our ducks. Nope, they constantly pulled at the plants and eventually destroyed the colony when we tried to plant the rhizomes directly into the pebbles/rocks on the shallow parts of the pool.

              Eventually, we put mature yellow water iris rhizomes into ceramic pots covered in rocks with the whole pot slightly submerged in the shallows of the pool. That approach has proven effective at minimizing the damage they do to the plants since our ducks can’t dislodge the rhizomes. The plants have now been in our pond for at least 3 years (they’re perennials), so we’re confident saying they can withstand duck pressure when grown this way.

              Every edible plant we’ve ever tried to grow (from duckweed to water lilies) lasts about 1 hour in our duck pond before being completely destroyed.  

              However, what we have done in the past few years is grow edible pond plants in our top filter pond with fencing placed around the filter pond to keep our ducks out. Our #1 recommendation for edible pond plants to put in a duck-protected filter pond is pickerelweed (Pontederia cordata). It’s a low maintenance perennial that’s also great at eating duck poo nutrients, AND you can feed it to your ducks. (In fact, you can eat it too.) Our ducks love it and one will occasionally figure out how to break through the fencing and ravage the plants. However, mature pickerelweed is pretty hardy and deep rooted, so it can tolerate a few sessions of duck pillaging. Pickerelweed is also considered an invasive in many places, but we’re able to keep it tightly contained in our setup. One other benefit of pickerelweed is it tolerates part shade well. Ours might get 3-4 hours of direct sunlight and the rest of the day it’s in the shade of an oak and peach tree. 
              Again, both the plants mentioned above are perennials, so you can plant them once, not yearly. You can probably source both plants through online retailers, but invasive species laws in your state may not allow retailers to ship them to you – you’ll have to check. Another good option to consider for your filter pond is cattails, which are also: a) low-maintenance perennials, b) good feeders, and c) produce edible parts for humans. 

              Hope this info helps and please let us know if you have any additional questions! 

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                Lydia B
                August 9, 2022 at 1:55 pm

                Yes, this is SUPER helpful!! Thanks so much! That’s especially good to know about young pond plants, I will keep experimenting. 😅

                I do have a few more qs… 🙂

                1. My Laguna pump has consistently gotten clogged every few days with feathers over the summer, and I have to pull it out a few times a week and remove them. Have you ever had this issue? I’m wondering if I need to build a screen cage around the pump to help catch feathers/debris…

                2. I’m curious to know how you fence in your filter pond. Do you use flexible netting over it, or a cage?

                3. Do you plant the pickerelweed in pots in the filter pond or right on the Matala filters?

                Thanks! You rock!

                • Aaron von Frank
                  August 10, 2022 at 11:12 am

                  Answers to your questions:

                  1. The only times our Laguna pond pumps (we have a large one for our main filter pond and smaller one for our secondary filter pond) have trouble getting clogged is when: a) our ducks are molting, and/or b) fall leaves are cascading into the pond by the bucketful in October/November. For most of the year, the pumps are clog-free, and we might remove and clean them once every 4-8 weeks just to keep the waterfall at maximum pressure to optimally aerate the pond. Unfortunately, when your ducks are molting, there’s no avoiding pump clogs. However, you can reduce the frequency of clogs by making sure your pump is elevated slightly above the pond floor and putting some sort of caging/screening system around your pump. Just make sure your cage/screen is relatively easy to remove and clean because it too will get clogged with duck feathers during molting. You might even make some sort of square cage that you could pull out via an attached cord and then put back without having to get into your pond. The other thing you’ll need to be careful of is not having any spiky wires or sharp edges on the surface that could injure duck flippers.

                  2. I went the cheap and ugly approach, e.g. function over aesthetics. Basically, I just put 2′ tall flexible wire garden fencing in a circle around the filter pond (crossing over the waterfall) supported by garden stakes to prevent the fencing from being trampled over by a herd of ducks. Doing something more attractive has been on my to-do list for two years, but since the current system works, that to-do item will likely continue to be relegated to the bottom of my list. Something more attractive would probably be fitted 1/2″ mesh caging just over the top of the filter pond, rather than fencing IF you’re just using Matala filters. If you also have plants in your filter pond, you’ll need to keep the ducks from being able to reach in.

                  3. There are multiple methods you could employ to get pond plants (including pickerelweed) in your filter pond. If you’re putting something like pickerelweed into a deeper filter pond that also has Matala filters in it, you’d want to construct some sort of floating/rasied island system so the plants are: a) easy to remove during annual pond clean-outs, and b) aren’t too far below the water surface, which would kill them. Our second biofilter pond is something of an ongoing experiment that has seen both successes and failures. Rather than Matala filters (like our main filter pond) our second filter pond is filled with a mix of lava rocks and large cobbles below with pickerelweed rooted on the surface (the roots extend all the way to the bottom of the filter pond by the end of the growing season). Initially, this second filter pond was plumbed the same as our primary filter pond, with piping going up and over the lip to an on/off valve, then into the bottom of the filter pond where it then percolated back up and out of a waterfall. However, the sediment would build up to the point that the smaller Laguna pump couldn’t pump water in, which would cause the pump to kick off. So we re-plumbed it such that water now comes out of a split pipe system near the surface at the back of the pond. Then it has to go past/through the pickerelweed patch before going out of the waterfall and splashing into the top of our primary filter pond. (Hopefully, this description makes sense.) This latest iteration has worked great and the pump has had no problems.

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            Gordon
            December 24, 2021 at 10:20 pm

            Thanks for putting this guide together – we’ve recently built a pond following your guide!

            We are wondering about how to test the water for the duck’s safe drinking. Is pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, and Phosphate the only ones that matter? How do we know what ranges are safe?

            Thank you and happy holidays!

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              December 28, 2021 at 1:20 pm

              Hi Gordon! Glad this diy duck pond guide was helpful for you.

              Ducks/waterfowl can tolerate drinking water that would put a human in the hospital, so they don’t really require pristine drinking water. However, long-term consumption of water with high levels of nitrogen and phosphorus could pose a health risk to ducks.

              When we first built our duck pond, we’d check our water quality monthly. Since we’ve now had the pond for many years, we’ve gotten much more laissez faire with water quality and pretty well trust our pond bacteria and other biology to keep things in balance.

              At this point, we only test our pond water quality with the water testing kit mentioned in the article (product link: https://amzn.to/3z9k1um) if: a) we suspect something is off, or b) we’re just curious and want to conduct a quick check. Those test strips are a good guide for keeping things within a “normal” range on nitrate, nitrite, total hardness, total alkalinity and pH. For instance, if we haven’t cleaned our filter pond/pads in a long time, we might get an algae bloom in the spring which turns the water more greenish in color. We know that means high nitrogen levels and will just clean things out and add a round or two of new pond bacteria rather than worrying about testing the water quality.

              Long story short: we were happily surprised by how well the water quality in our pond stayed within normal ranges. However, when you’re getting started or you suspect high nutrient levels in your pond, it’s a good idea to conduct a check and take corrective action immediately.

              • Reply
                Gordon
                January 4, 2022 at 2:14 am

                Hi Aaron,

                Thank you for the reply – much appreciated.

                Do you have any suggestions on products / strategies for manipulating the levels for the pond? For example, the PH level for my pond is a bit on the high end (close to 8.0) and phosphorus was a bit higher than expected at 2 ppm.

                I’m looking into some of the API Pond products, which look like they are meant for fish ponds but should work for ducks ponds as well:
                https://www.chewy.com/api-pond-ph-down-pond-water-ph/dp/192560
                https://www.chewy.com/api-pond-ecofix-sludge-destroyer-pond/dp/151031
                https://www.chewy.com/api-pond-zyme-sludge-destroyer-pond/dp/151019

                Any thoughts?

                Thanks and hope you are off to a great 2022.

                • Aaron von Frank
                  January 4, 2022 at 3:08 pm

                  Hi again, Gordon! A pH of 8 is fine in your pond. In fact, pond water with a pH range between 6.5 to 8.5 is considered good. No need to stress there.

                  2 ppm would be high on phosphorus but one caveat (that also applies to pH) – take your water measurements in the morning BEFORE your ducks go into the pond and before the plants and algae in your pond cause a temporary bump up in pH in the afternoon. Ducks pooping and stirring up the sediment could throw off your nutrient readings, and plant/algae could throw off your pH readings later in the day.

                  With those caveats out of the way, if you take a morning reading and you’re not happy with the nutrient results, either of the two Sludge Destroyer products you linked would work well in helping to biologically degrade the sludge. You will still need to periodically clean out your pond and filter pond though, especially if you have a lot of ducks utilizing it. For instance, our primary filter pond is currently nearly full of muck beyond what pond bacteria can manage (lots of broken down fall leaves + duck poop). That means it’s time for me to turn the pump off, switch off the turnoff valve to prevent sludge backflow, and remove the muck + clean the filter pads. Thankfully, that’s something we only have to do 1-2 times per year at most. It makes our compost and fruit trees happy though!

              • Reply
                Gordon
                January 31, 2022 at 1:18 am

                Hi Aaron!

                The ducks are loving the pond! It’s been about 3 weeks after we’ve put them in, but our ammonia levels seem to be consistently rising (4.0 ppm now). However, we haven’t detected any nitrates or nitrites. Does that mean the bacteria isn’t working? We’ve added the filter pad bacteria, as well as the other denitrifying bacteria you’ve suggested. Do we just need to wait it out or add more bacteria?

                Thanks,
                Gordon

                • Aaron von Frank
                  January 31, 2022 at 1:34 pm

                  Sorry to hear you’re having pond problems, Gordon. 4.0 ppm ammonia is quite high. It’s hard to diagnose problems/solutions online without knowing more, but a few considerations and thoughts:

                  1. Yes, those high pond ammonia levels indicate that Nitrosomonas and/or other ammonia-eating bacteria are either not present or haven’t proliferated to the point of keeping up with the ammonia levels. If they are present, they should have been able to start making a dent in ammonia levels after 3 weeks.

                  2. Most of the pond bacteria products (like Sludge Destroyer) recommend using them twice per week for two weeks when you’re first inoculating your pond, then once every two weeks for regular maintenance. So, it’s not a one-and-done application.

                  3. Something I should have considered previously is the time of year given that it’s now winter. I’m not sure where you’re located but pond water temperature has a big impact on what type of bacteria (and natural pond-cleaning products) are going to be effective for you. It’s possible your pond ammonia problem is entirely due to the bacteria you’re adding NOT being able to survive or function at cold temperatures. Hate to suggest something else to buy, but there are specific COLD water pond formulations like Aquascape Cold Water Beneficial Bacteria that could be the ticket to lowering your ammonia levels. Before you buy anything else, look at the bacteria-based products you’ve already used and see what the product specs/instructions say about temperatures at which they’re effective.

                  4. In the meantime, you might want to go ahead and do a partial water change out, maybe 1/3 of total volume, to immediately drop the ammonia levels down.

                  Out of curiosity, what’s the total gallon volume of your pond and how many ducks are utilizing it?

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              Gordon
              February 1, 2022 at 9:30 pm

              Hi Aaron, thanks so much for your reply! Having trouble replying directly to your message, so will start a new reply thread.

              To answer your questions:
              – We have a 3000 gallon pond, with 3 ducks. It is fully enclosed and connected to their coop, so they end up spending 95% of their time in the pond.
              – Good point about the cold weather – The pond water has regularly been below 40 F the past few weeks. I will your recommended product. We’ve been using the Microbe Lift filter pad gel and the Microbe Lift PL, which does say it works, but slower during cold weather. We’ve also used the Microbe Lift Autumn / Winter, but it looks like that one has to be used in water above 40F.
              – I think the bacteria might have been working, but slowly. After the first week, the ammonia was at ~1.5ppm. We then kicked the ducks out for a week, and it seemed to have dropped to around 0.5ppm. We then put the ducks back in for a week, but its gotten up to 4.0 ppm.
              – I’m not sure whether this is relevant information, but we found that the water got foamy / bubbly during the times when the ducks did not have access to the pond. But when we put the ducks back the bubbles seemed to disappear.
              – When we kicked out the ducks, we also emptied the bog to adjust it to fix a leak. We did add more filter gel at that point, but I wonder if that messed up the bacteria that was growing in there.

              A few follow-ups:
              1. What do you think is a safe level of ammonia to have the ducks in? What levels do you generally have it at?
              2. When the water gets really cold or even starts freezing over, does that mean all the helpful bacteria will end up dying? Do you have to “restart” things in the spring when that happens?
              3. We’ve gotten 2 power outages – does the bacteria die without aeration when that happens? Especially the bacteria on the filter pads that isn’t submerged in water anymore?

              Again, thanks so much for your help!

              Best regards,
              Gordon

              • Reply
                Aaron von Frank
                February 3, 2022 at 5:10 pm

                Hi Gordon. Sorry for my slow response. Haven’t had much spare time past couple days.

                Two thing we’ve probably under-appreciated over the years is:
                a) having an established microbial ecosystem in our pond which probably really helps our water quality through the seasons, and
                b) having an open pond that regularly gets new rain water added and overflows during heavy rains, helping to do small but regular water changes. For reference, we have 6 ducks in a 1200 gallon pond and our pond is very low maintenance.
                Foam occurring in your pond when your ducks are NOT using it is odd. That’s usually caused by protein in the water, frothed up by the waterfall. The source of that excess protein is duck excreta (or fish excreta in fish ponds). 

                Answers to your questions (as best as I can):
                1. What do you think is a safe level of ammonia to have the ducks in? What levels do you generally have it at?

                We haven’t tested our pond water in so long I don’t know what our ammonia levels are. Unfortunately, I don’t know where our water quality test kit is so I’ll need to order a new one. As far as ammonia levels for poultry drinking water, below 25 ppm is the rule for most birds so the same would likely apply to ducks.

                2. When the water gets really cold or even starts freezing over, does that mean all the helpful bacteria will end up dying? Do you have to “restart” things in the spring when that happens?

                I can speculate here, but not being a microbiologist, you should take my answer with a grain of salt. It’s likely going to depend on the species of bacteria. Some species will stay active. Some may remain active but slow way down. Some may go dormant until optimal temperatures return. Others may die.  

                If you’re adding beneficial pond bacteria specifically produced for sub-40F water, I don’t think they’ll perish when your pond freezes over. 

                Depending on where we are in our pond cleaning cycle and what the pond water looks like, we often add warmer weather beneficial pond bacteria in the spring. That also often coincides with a big annual pond and filter pond cleaning. We’re not very regimented in our pond treatments – we more do things based on observation, intuition, and time availability at this point.    

                3. We’ve gotten 2 power outages – does the bacteria die without aeration when that happens? Especially the bacteria on the filter pads that isn’t submerged in water anymore?

                There’s actually two questions here: a) can the beneficial pond bacteria survive without oxygen — and if so for how long? and b) can beneficial pond bacteria survive out of water — and if so, for how long? Again, this is beyond my expertise but I’m happy to speculate… 

                a) My understanding is that there are all different types/species of beneficial pond bacteria with varying degrees of oxygen requirements. Even bacteria that need oxygen can survive for hours or days without oxygen, depending on the species. My guess: most of you beneficial pond bacteria would probably survive at least 24 hours on residual oxygen with your pump off, perhaps longer. 

                b) If your filter pads completely dried out or froze solid, the bacteria in the pads would likely perish. If the filter pads stayed damp and unfrozen, they’re likely fine.  

                Sorry again that you’re having water quality challenges. Please do check back in once your new cold water pond bacteria has a chance to go to work! 

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            Gina Kincaid
            December 4, 2021 at 2:01 pm

            I’m a bit late to the party, but so grateful to find such a great plan and details for the build. We’re moving back to my home state of Oregon and I definitely want to graduate from dumping and cleaning the stock tank every couple of days! In our current home the chickens and ducks are too far from the house — I want a beautiful area close in so I can enjoy the sound of the waterfall and interact with our pets. My husband will appreciate all the design details. Can’t wait to begin!

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              December 5, 2021 at 6:38 am

              Glad the information is helpful and best of luck on building your duck pond! Let us know if you have questions as you get underway.

          • Reply
            Emily
            July 29, 2021 at 9:53 pm

            Hi, Aaron. I just wanted to say thank you for providing such a detailed explanation of your process here. We followed your instructions, used the same materials, and have a beautiful pond for our five ducks. We have one problem, though. It has been close to three weeks since we turned the pump on and began filtering our water. We added bacteria to the filter pads and the water, have had the pump running almost constantly, and our water is still very murky. It has developed a strong odor now, too. I’m not sure what we did wrong, but I’m concerned about the ducks using the pond with the water looking and smelling like it does. Should we give it more time to filter? I’m tempted to drain it and start over with fresh water, but I’d hate to go through the whole waiting process again if it’s going to correct itself soon. Any advice would be hugely appreciated. Thank you!

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              July 30, 2021 at 10:04 am

              Hi Emily! Sorry you’re having issues with water quality. Best guess, there are two possible causes here (and they may be happening concurrently):

              1) When we first filled up our pond and turned on the water, the water was quite turbid due to all the residue on the rocks and pebbles. It took quite a while for the sediment to settle, but there was no associated smell.
              2) Municipal water has quite a few chemical additives put in to kill microbes to ensure people don’t get sick when drinking it. These additives may also kill the beneficial pond bacteria you add when you’re first filling the pond. The chemicals do dissipate and/or become diluted by rainwater over time. This would mean that the good bacteria was killed, leaving the “microbiome” of your pond sterile and wide open for inoculation by bad bacteria, which would create an odor as they proliferated.

              The first thing we’d recommend is re-introducing beneficial pond bacteria one evening asap once you put your flock up. We’d recommend Microbe Lift PL Bacteria which will consume lots of nitrogen and algae as well: https://amzn.to/3iS50Fm. If that doesn’t improve the water quality within 3-5 days, then you may unfortunately want to consider removing and replacing the water. Please check back and let us know how things go!

              • Reply
                Emily
                August 13, 2021 at 6:12 pm

                Thank you for the advice! We ended up draining the water out yesterday. I ordered the bacteria you suggested and added it, but the water continued to get worse, so we figured it was time to start over. Now that we’ve cleaned everything out and refilled the pond with fresh water (still city water, unfortunately) I have a few follow-up questions.

                1. When should we add the first dose of bacteria to the new water and inoculate the filter pads? If the chemicals in city water will kill everything, would it be better to wait a bit until said chemicals have dissipated?
                2. Should we have the pump running and filtering right away, or wait until we add the bacteria?
                3. Is there a particular type of feeder fish you’d recommend to help with the pond gunk? I’ve read they can be very beneficial to the health of the pond, but I don’t know what the options are as far as cold-hardy (needs to survive Ohio winters) and big enough to not get eaten by the ducks. We purchased 40 large minnows and goldfish already, to the ducks’ delight, and have had no survivors.

                Again, thank you so much for your help. I’m sure you have much better things to do than answer my endless questions, so I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.

                • Aaron von Frank
                  August 14, 2021 at 1:53 pm

                  Sorry for your troubles, Emily. Answers to your questions below:

                  1. Unfortunately, there’s no simple, universal answer here. That’s because different municipalities use different types and ratios of chemicals to treat their water and make it safe for human consumption, which is not the same thing as being safe for fish, beneficial microbes, and other aquatic life to live in. Case in point: some municipalities use straight chlorine which would probably completely dissipate from pond water on a hot summer day within 24 hours. Others use chloramine, which is a combination of ammonia and chlorine that makes the chlorine much more non-volatile, e.g. it won’t dissipate. Aquarium owners usually have to use special water treatment products to neutralize chloramine or it kills their fish. There’s no risk to your ducks, but depending on the concentration, chloramine may very well kill the beneficial microbes. Maybe your town/city water department publicly posts what additives are used in the water on their website, otherwise you could call to find out.

                  Either way, any chemicals in your water that would volatilize out would likely do so in 24-48 hours. So you could add Microbe Lift PL Bacteria after 2 days. Frankly, you may want to keep adding it every week or so if your pond water becomes malodorous (fancy way of saying stinky) or has high amounts of algae growing in it. We’d be really surprised if it doesn’t work because it’s a great product that we’ve found very helpful over the years.

                  2. Yes, you definitely want to keep your pond pump on. That will at least filter out solids through your Matala pads and aerate the water via whatever waterfall system you have set up. Both of those factors are very important for promoting and maintaining pond water quality.

                  3. We had pretty much the exact same thing happen with fish in our pond! Our ducks ate about 50 small feeder fish we got from a local pet store within an afternoon. Miraculously, a few of them somehow survived and became large fish (we didn’t realize until a year later). The problem with using fish for cleaning your pond is they also poop and pee. As you said, we’re also not sure which fish in the “cleaner” category could survive the winter. Plants are a much better option for improving water quality IF you can keep your ducks from eating/destroying them with fencing or other methods. We have some yellow flag irises in pots in our pond that our ducks pretty well leave alone. We also have pickerelweed in our second pond filter which our ducks ravage at every opportunity (somehow they always end up figuring out how to get over/under/through whatever fencing we erect). Both of those are perennial plants that go dormant in the winter but slurp up a lot of pond nutrients from spring – fall, which also overlaps with periods when pond water quality can be more of a challenge.

                  Hope this helps and please keep us posted.

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            Mark Kempf
            July 26, 2021 at 1:39 pm

            We have grown to love our ducks after our daughter brought home a set from a farm supply store 7 years ago. I just built a duck pond (filled it up about 10 days ago) based on your site and so far the ducks are liking it. But, i’m getting green buildup on the rocks and waterfall and pump hose (its clear so i can see the inside of it). I’m no biology or chemist so i don’t know how to diagnose what it is. The pond gets sun until mid afternoon and we have had some scorcher days. Could the sun be killing the bacteria in the filter pads or is it algae? I do have an oxygenator in the pond. I don’t have test strips purchased as i’m not sure what to do with results anyway. The ducks still get in and our dogs drink (but don’t get in). Any recommendations? Oh, we have 5 ducks for our pond and have used a 50 gallon tub for our filtering bog. We were able to use one layer of the green filter and two layers of the finer gray filter.

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              July 27, 2021 at 12:19 pm

              Hi Mark! Sounds like algae, which is normal and expected (to a point) when you have a steady nitrogen/nutrient source like duck poo + heat. We have some algae in our pond and on our rocks too. When there is excess nitrogen, it can cause a large algae bloom which turns your water green – that’s when it’s a problem. Since your pond is new and sounds like it’s set up well, you probably don’t too severe of a problem. One thing we wonder about is when pond bacteria is added to a pool full of fresh municipal water that contains additives intended to kill microbes (for good reason), if it also kills the good bacteria you’re adding. The answer is probably “yes.” At this point with your pond, the chlorine & other antimicrobial compounds in the municipal water have probably dissipated or diluted with rainfall and open air exposure. Long answer short: you may want to go ahead and add another round of pond bacteria tonight once you put your ducks up. Not sure which bacteria you’re using, but the one we’d recommend for you is Microbe Lift PL Bacteria which will consume lots of nitrogen and algae as well: https://amzn.to/3iS50Fm. Hope this helps and please check back to let us know how things go!

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            Riley
            January 8, 2021 at 6:41 pm

            Hey my name is Riley and we want to build a pond we have three ducks that are indian runner ducks we don’t need a very large one just like four hundred gallons with out a water fall and we’re wondering what y’all could suggest our price range is preferably under 1500 if y’all could get back that would be great rhanks

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              Aaron von Frank
              January 10, 2021 at 11:11 am

              Hi Riley. You can easily modify the pond plans/specifications we detail in this article to make a smaller pond with a smaller budget. Please note that the waterfall is not merely cosmetic: you have to have a pump + filter pond + filter material in order to filter out duck solids and clean the water in your pond. The waterfall simply connects the filter pond to the main pond while aerating the water (another important feature for improved water quality). Once you understand the basic requirements for creating a pond like the one in this article, you can modify your plans to match your budget/scope. Hope this helps!

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            Herb Bittner
            January 3, 2021 at 11:15 am

            Hello, and Happy New Year!

            First, know that I’ve stalked your site for about a year now, and am finally ready to build a pond because of it! You did a great job presenting a lot of general, good to know, information with just enough detail to work. The wife has 11 ducks (calls and teals), so I’m scraping out a pond that will have a 110 gal filter w/ waterfall, and a second waterfall into a stream that will also feed into the pond. I’ll have a Laguna 4280 feeding both, hoping to create some circulation from the two waterfalls angling in to keep it from freezing in a Virginia winter. I (think I) recall that you used to have a circulation pump, in a case of some sort, in your pond – do I recall that correctly, or is that from some other site I stalked and don’t remember? I’m looking for a way to help out circulation a little so I can avoid powering a de-icer for ~1800 gallons of water.

            Thank you!

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              January 3, 2021 at 5:00 pm

              Hi Herb! We were wondering who was stalking our site, so thanks for outing yourself! 😛

              As for our DIY backyard pond: other than the small and large Laguna pumps + two filter ponds/waterfalls, we haven’t used any additional pumps or circulating systems in our pond. The flow from the waterfalls and the direction at which they enter the pond keep the pond water in motion and circulating. We do have cold snaps here in Upstate South Carolina where the pond will freeze over IF we don’t plop a de-icer in, but that’s maybe only 2-3 weeks over the course of a winter. It has to be consistently below freezing for multiple days and nights for the pond to freeze over. A de-icer really doesn’t draw that much energy, so it may well be worth considering for your setup up in VA. Hope this helps and feel free to reach out anytime we can be of help as you’re putting your pond together.

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            Kristin Wisdom
            December 27, 2020 at 12:33 pm

            Just wanted to say thanks for your excellent step by step instructions. I have installed 2 ponds for my sweet ducks following you instructions with a few modifications. One large 2000 gallon pond out side and one 150 gal pond insider greenhouse where the ducks live. The indoor pond is in service all year. They both have 50 gallon filters, I have matala pads at the bottom and clay balls or k1 biomedical on top. Though I found that plants growing in the bio media made a huge improvement to water clarity. I will add more plants next year. I also found the barley straw extract to be very helpful, but you can’t get behind. I did find an easy fix if the pond gets really green. I replaced my pump profiler with an old poly filled pillow for 2 days and it filtered out all the algae. Anyway, thanks for your help.

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              Aaron von Frank
              December 28, 2020 at 12:40 pm

              That sounds like a great pond setup, thanks Kristin! Yes, plants definitely make a huge difference in pond water quality – the trick is keeping the ducks from accessing and eating/destroying them. The best plant we’ve found thus far is pickerel, which we keep in our top filter pond with caging to keep the ducks out. Every now and then, they’ll figure out how to get over the fencing and eat it to a nub. Thanks also for the other pond care tips!

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            Lea M Sanders-Wilcox
            October 17, 2020 at 12:24 pm

            Do you run your pump at all times?

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              October 18, 2020 at 10:41 am

              Yes, we run our pond pump at all times. Over time (especially when leaves are falling or our ducks are molting) the pump cover and our pump impeller will get clogged, causing the flow rate to decrease. When that happens, we’ll turn off and clean the pump, which only takes a few minutes. Otherwise it’s always running. Water flow + aeration is really important for maintaining good water quality. Here’s a quick tutorial showing you how to clean a Laguna pond pump (the one we use and recommend), with video: https://www.tyrantfarms.com/video-how-to-clean-a-laguna-max-flo-pump-in-your-backyard-pond/.

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            Hung Nguyen
            August 4, 2020 at 2:35 pm

            Hi Aaron & Susan,

            Thank you so much for documenting and publishing your experience building your pond. We followed pretty much every step of your guide, and we now have a beautiful (and a bit smaller) pond for our future ducks! (If someone could tell me how to add pictures, I’d be happy to share!)

            One question for you: How are you running the electrical cords from the pumps to the power stake? Did you run them through some conduit and bury them? & I assume you leave the pumps running 24/7. Have you had any issues with moisture getting into the connections between the pump cords and stake?

            Thanks again!
            Hung

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              August 4, 2020 at 2:58 pm

              Hi Hung! Glad to hear you’ve got a beautiful duck pond up and running. We run a cord from an outside GFCI outlet to the power stake. Yes, we run our pumps 24/7. No, we haven’t had any issues with moisture in the outlets since the power stake we use is made for outdoors. As far as photos, if you have them somewhere online in a public album, you can share the link here – we’d love to see them! Unfortunately, this commenting system doesn’t allow file/photo uploads.

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            Aaron Drake
            August 1, 2020 at 3:31 pm

            Hi Aaron. Where did you find the research on pond size? I’d like to do something similar but about half the length. Thanks.

            Aaron D.

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              August 3, 2020 at 12:35 pm

              Oh, man… We did our digging on how to make a DIY pond about 10 years ago, and I have no idea what resources we utilized at this point. You can use the same basic layout we have here — just smaller — and downsize your pump a notch. But the basic mechanics are the same regardless of size.

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            bmaxwell
            July 21, 2020 at 2:05 pm

            Hey Aaron. I’m going to be building a pond a lot like yours for our three ducks in the next few weeks. I couldn’t find the 50 gal version of the filter pond tub you recommended, just 40 gal, so I bought the 110 gal version instead of planning a second filter pond in the future. Would the one Laguna 2900 be enough to feed one big 110 gal filter? Thanks!

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              July 24, 2020 at 5:47 pm

              Hi, and so sorry for the slow response. Crazy week. Yes, a Laguna 2900 will be more than adequate to cover you on a 110 gallon filter pond. Best of luck on your duck pond build and reach out if you have questions along the way! 🙂

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            fernofthevalley
            June 9, 2020 at 1:27 pm

            So our Skippy filter has kept our water crystal clear, we even added plants in the filter (out of ducks reach). Our only issue has been algae growing on our rocks. The pond is unfortunatly in direct sunlight and won’t have shade until our trees grow up. Do you guys deal with rock algae at all or just accepted it as a part of pond life? I feel like I need to educate myself more on algae and a ponds ecosystem. Our only solution for now is adding shade via a cow panel trellis overstretching the pond with plants but it’s a WIP.

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 11, 2020 at 10:53 pm

              Hi! Sorry for our slow response. Been a hectic couple days. Yes, we have algae on our rocks, too. It’s part of a pond ecosystem and creates habitat (and food) for other pond critters. For instance, we now have a population of small water mollusks – we didn’t put them there, they just appeared. It seems that they eat the algae on the rocks and our ducks then eat them. So, don’t be too concerned unless you have an over-proliferation of something, which would indicate an ecosystem or nutrient load that’s out of balance. For instance, if your water turns green due to an algae bloom (different species than what lives on your rocks), that can mean high nitrogen levels.

              Hope this helps put you at ease!

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            Karen Thurgate
            June 2, 2020 at 4:17 pm

            Hello Aaron and Susan!

            I had a couple questions for you as we start our duck pond adventure. Did you use just one layer of each of the filter materials in your skippy biofilter? Also, if I’m reading it correctly, you cut a section of the lip of the filter tub to direct the water onto the waterfall. If that is correct, how far below the rest of the lip did you cut and how wide did you go? Lastly, the best place for our filter is on the pond wall just behind where our pump will be sitting. Will that be an issue with circulating the pond water? I’m just worried that one area of the pond would have good turnover but the far side (about ten feet away) might not be moved as much. We noticed that your first filter was near the pond pump but the second pump was placed into the far end of the pond. Was that to get the water around the entire pond to circulate better?

            Thank you and hope all is great with you and the family!

            Karen and Doug

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 3, 2020 at 8:53 am

              Hi Karen! Answers to your questions:

              1. We ordered one sheet each of the grey and green Matala pond filters. Then we cut a form out of each one to match the size/specs of our primary filter pond. The green filter form went in first to filter out the larger material/solids. The grey filter form went on top to filter out finer material/solids. Then we put the scrap cut pieces on top of the larger fitted forms.

              2. Yes, for the top of our waterfalls, we cut a chunk out of the lip of both of our filter ponds (about 2″ deep x 5″ wide) then glued pond liner into the filter pond and over the lip using a pond adhesive. Note that the 2″ x 5″ opening isn’t a hard and fast rule, that was just an opening that fit our particular waterfall.

              3. Yes, we put in our second pump + filter + waterfall to get more circulation and aeration in our pond AND to get additional filtration of solids. If that’s not ideal for you, another possibility for you to consider is doing a split waterfall to get some extra water down to the far end of your pond. But as a general rule, the more the water moves, aerates, and filters the better it will be for water quality. That’s why we also added additional aerators to our pond.

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                Karen Thurgate
                June 3, 2020 at 12:31 pm

                Hi Again Aaron and Susan!

                Thank you so much for the quick, very detailed and extremely helpful response! My husband and I are almost done with the digging and ordered most of the supplies from your website suggestion list and now are ready to roll ehehe 🙂 Again, thank you so much for all you do on your blog and website which are so truly inspirational and fun 🙂 Not only now we are going to have a pond, but baby ducklings too boot !! Next project will be the cob oven lol …well first is first…finish the pond…eheh….we will send pictures to show you what you have started eheh :))))) again ….redundantly I know, THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH…
                HUGS

                Karen and Doug and our son Jetrick

                • Aaron von Frank
                  June 3, 2020 at 1:59 pm

                  Really appreciate the kind words, thanks Karen! Love to see your photos when you’re done. 🙂

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            Zachariah McCoskey
            June 1, 2020 at 6:02 pm

            Hi Aaron, are you guys just using 1 grey and 1 green full sheet filter media pad or are you using more? I’m assuming you have all green first then the grey stacked on top. Thanks!

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              Aaron von Frank
              June 3, 2020 at 8:43 am

              Yes, we ordered one sheet each of the grey and green Matala pond filters. Then we cut a form out of each one to match the size/specs of our filter pond. The green filter form went in first to filter out the larger material. The grey filter form went on top to filter out finer material. Then we put the scrap cut pieces on top of those.

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            Karen Thurgate
            May 27, 2020 at 3:42 pm

            Hello Aaron!
            I love what you and you wife have done with your duck pond and now in the process of building one too along side our school house chicken coop. Waiting on soil to level our 12 by 10 pond and hopefully the rest will be done by June 15th. I love the pictures you shared which really helped in defining the size and level of our pond. I am still in the process of figuring out how to work the skippy bio filter but will use the ideas you guys used for yours. Thank you for posting this pond and in a few weeks we will be adding 4 baby Welsh Harlequin duckling to our brood.

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              Aaron von Frank
              May 28, 2020 at 10:26 am

              Thanks, Karen! Glad our DIY pond article & instructions have been helpful. Since we originally built and did step-by-step photos of the pond construction, there were two changes (both noted in the article): 1) We added a second filter pond & small pump. That filter pond has a waterfall that goes into the first filter pond. 2) We switched to Matala pond filters (linked in article) which are SO much better than what we started with. The biofilter system isn’t terribly complicated, so don’t stress. It’s basically just filter material inoculated with beneficial pond bacteria. Water from the primary pond pumps into the bottom of the filter ponds, is strained of solids by the filters (which are then largely digested by bacteria), then the cleaned water goes back down the waterfall and is aerated in the process.

              Reach out if you have any questions as you get going! Best of luck to you and your Welsh Harlequin flock. You’re in for quite an experience. 🙂

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            Angela Eckert
            May 26, 2020 at 9:56 pm

            Hi Aaron. After reading this article a couple months ago, I was really inspired to build a pond for our ducks! My boyfriend and I got three ducklings from Tractor Supply. A few weeks later, we got two more ducklings from another feed store. There already was two ducks living in the duck yard, so now we have seven duckies. Before the pond, we had 3 baby pools that weren’t doing the trick. The duck yard is on a hill, so we couldn’t follow your design exactly, but we tried to keep it close(for the most part). The pond is about 6ftx11ft and 1.5ft at the deepest. I think we calculated somewhere between 900-1200 gallons. We originally started with two 20gallon garbage cans as the filters. Before the ducks felt comfortable enough to get in, the garbage cans had our water crystal clear and flowing good. Once they realized the pond was for them and started enjoying it, the water turned reddish. It started out light red and as the days went on, it turned deeper red and eventually had bubbles floating in the top. The ducks wouldn’t even get in it then! We decided we needed more filter, so we used two 55 gallon drums and filled them with lava rocks and a hodgepodge of filter matting material. We also added another 100 gallon pond above the original that connects with a little stream. We fenced off the top pond and put some plants in it. After a couple of days, the water is turning red again. We went out and bought some algae treatment that is safe for pond plants and animals. The day after that treatment, the water was a lighter red, but still red. We also treated it with some barley extract and have two barley balls floating around. Today, the water wasn’t bubbly and wasn’t a deep red, but it definitely had a red tint to it. I was wondering if your pond experiences any of the red water that we seem to be?

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            liam marney
            April 23, 2020 at 1:06 pm

            Hi, I just have a couple of questions
            did you have to tip the filter in a certain direction so the water spilled that way
            also, could you plant any plants on the bottom of the pond

            other than those things I believe I understood, thanks for the post

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            Liane Cutforth
            April 20, 2020 at 4:47 pm

            Hi, Thank you for all the great info. We have 5 ducks and are about to build them a pond! Would you recommend using two 50 gallon tubs? 100 gallons? or maybe an 85 gallon instead? Also would you recommend one or two pumps for added aeration? Thanks

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              April 23, 2020 at 3:38 pm

              Hi Liane! Unfortunately, there’s not an exact formula to determine how big of a pond or how many pumps you need in your pond based on the number of ducks you have. A lot of it has to do with your budget, the size of the space, and just your personal preferences. However, with 5 ducks I’d recommend you have at least a 100 gallon primary swimming pond. If you’re going with a self-cleaning skippy biofilter setup like we have in this article, you’ll want to have a secondary filter pond that cleans out the solids while providing aeration via a waterfall that connects back to the main pond. That means you’d need at least 1 pump and another 50 gallon tub for your filter pond.

              Hope this helps.

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            Nathan C. Knudson
            April 17, 2020 at 11:30 am

            Love the pond. Our ducks will hatch in the next two weeks and we’ve decided to build them a pond. How many layers of filter pads did you use? Is it just one of the green and one of the gray, or are there multiples or some other media?

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              Aaron von Frank
              April 17, 2020 at 3:32 pm

              Hi Nathan! With the Matala filters, we only went two layers deep with single pieces. (Green filter went in first to filter out the larger material; the grey filter went on top to filter out finer material.) The Matala filters come in a giant rectangle shape, so we cut a single piece out of each color filter and put that in the filter pond. With the filter material that was left over, we cut smaller chunks that we then put on top of the larger fitted filters. They’re extremely efficient at filtering out muck – wish we’d known about them years ago. Please let me know if that answers your questions or if you all need any help as you get going on your duck pond. Fun project! It’s tough work, but so worth it when you’re done and get to enjoy it for years to come. Your ducks will love it too. 🙂

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                Nathan C. Knudson
                April 20, 2020 at 11:47 pm

                I just bought the pump and pond liner a few mouse clicks ago. I’ll get the Matala filters also. I’ve used them before in Aquaponics gardening and they’re really amazing. Do you put anything in the filter besides the Matala and the bacteria, like, some kind of cover or lid with holes for air, or does it just do it’s thing?

                • Aaron von Frank
                  April 23, 2020 at 3:30 pm

                  Hi Nathan! Nope, we don’t cover our filter ponds. Just put filter material in and let it do its thing. That doesn’t mean you can’t do something differently, that’s just what we do. But there’s no functional or beneficial reason we know of that would make having a cover a necessity. One interesting thing we’ve noticed is that all kinds of interesting aquatic critters just show up in our filter ponds (and main pond) – frogs, salamanders, various water mollusks, dragonfly larvae, etc. So we just try our best to mimic a stream/pond ecosystem and leave things open.

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            Jessica G.
            March 29, 2020 at 11:05 am

            Hi,

            We are planning to build a pond and following your great directions. We are going to do an oval design probably measuring 10 by 20 ft for six ducks and hopefully a few fish. We have a really big yard and we are building this pond next to our chicken/duck Garden Coop/enclosed run. I was going to do an 85 gallon bio-filter, the Laguna 4200 pump and increasing the size of the liner/under layment. I was hoping to do one filter and pump but I guess we had pumps and filters if needed.

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              March 30, 2020 at 6:32 pm

              Hi Jessica! Best of luck with your pond. Please share pics when you’re done! Also, let us know if you have any questions along the way.

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            Renee
            September 11, 2019 at 11:25 am

            I did it! built my pond works great. it’s been almost a year and I’ve added 2 things. I added a ball valve shutoff to the bottom of waterfall, hooked a hose up to water a nearby garden. Also I can just open it up to clean bottom of waterfall sludge. I stir it the sponges on top with an old broom to clean everything. Then I added a uv light for algae since my pond is in sun all day I had a real problem.
            I wanted to thank you for posting this design without it I don’t know if I would have taken the plunge.

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            Doug
            June 11, 2019 at 5:15 pm

            Hate to be that guy but 2 questions:

            Did you ever consider a bog filter? I’m curious about the idea but don’t know how it would do side by side with ducks.

            When cleaning your current bio-filter, does it require completely dismantling it, washing then putting back together?

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            Jessica A
            May 4, 2019 at 11:53 am

            what are the 8k lbs of rocks for? I see the large ones lining the pond. Is that really 8k rocks?

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            smithmal
            April 20, 2018 at 3:09 pm

            Thanks for taking the time to document how you put in your duck pond. I have bunches of questions….

            1. How is your system working so far. If you were starting from scratch over again, is there anything that you would change?
            2. Can you provide a brief description of how you clean your biofilter bogs
            3. Do you get sediment forming at the bottom of your pond and if so, do you need to clean out your pond? I’m wondering whether a swirl pool between the pond and the skippy filters would remove large particles and reduce the bioload on your skippy filters.
            4. In addition to your skippy (microbe) filter, have you thought about filtering your water through an hydroponic system? The plants you use could provide additional filtering and landscaping to your pond. Also, some of the plants you grow could be given back to your ducks as an additional source of nutrients
            5. I see that you keep your pool open year round. What happens to your microbe population during the winter time? Do you need to re-populate it in the spring again?
            6. Can you explain where your pumps are placed. Are they both in the skippy filtering pools? How long do you think your pumps will last since they are dealing with pumping water with heavy bioloads in them?
            7. Would you consider shooting a video of your pond system and narrating each section of your pool. A video would help out a lot with visualizing how your pool and biofilters work together.

            Thanks again!

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            GCEMSPete
            September 4, 2017 at 8:03 am

            Hello! How often are you having to clean out the biofilter?

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              Aaron von Frank
              September 6, 2017 at 2:58 pm

              Hi! It depends on whether you have waterfowl or not. If you don’t have ducks pooping and molting feathers into your backyard pond, you might not ever have to clean the biofilters (although you might have to replace them if/when they biodegrade). However, we have seven ducks that spend a good portion of their lives in our small pond, so we have to clean the “solids” out of our filters about twice a year just to make sure the water stays in ideal shape. It’s not the most pleasant job in the world but our plants and compost benefit greatly from the byproduct. 😛

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                GCEMSPete
                September 6, 2017 at 4:36 pm

                We have seven khaki campbells and I was cleaning out our old pond which was just a kiddie pool several times a week. Thanks for the response! I have been following your plans and we are almost done, just have to finish the rocks. Any other suggestions?

                • Aaron von Frank
                  September 14, 2017 at 11:48 am

                  Sounds like you’re about to have some very happy ducks! You’re going to get a good laugh out of how happy your flock is when you first fill up the pond. They’ll be in there constantly, cleaning, diving, dabbling, etc. Ours still love their pond as much as the day they got it but they’re asking for an expansion or a second pond. Spoiled birds. It’s never enough.

                  As for other suggestions, sounds like you’re right on track. If all you have left is rocks, you’re close to the finish line. Did you have any specific questions about construction, design, or plumbing? Happy to help you as you finish up.

                • GCEMSPete
                  September 14, 2017 at 9:09 pm

                  So my pond is pretty much complete, just have to put the hogs hair material in the biofilter. Did you do layers of scrubber pads in between layers of hogs hair?

                • Aaron von Frank
                  September 20, 2017 at 5:31 pm

                  Ideally, you can layer it based on porosity: filter material that catches largest materials goes on the bottom and filters that catch the smallest material goes on top. Depending on what you’ve got there, that’s probably going to mean your hogs hair filters are going to go on the bottom and your scrubber pads are going to go on top. Does that make sense?

          • Reply
            Dave
            April 29, 2017 at 1:05 pm

            Great article but the pics that you have here are really small is there anyway we can see normal size. 150 x 150 really doesnt help understand whats going on.

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              Dave
              May 10, 2017 at 6:13 pm

              Does anyone actually look at this?

            • Reply
              Aaron von Frank
              May 11, 2017 at 12:54 pm

              Dave, sorry for the delayed response! For some reason, I’m not getting comment notification emails despite my settings showing that I should be. The native slideshow function on our site is also a little wonky, but you should be able to click the pictures now to enlarge them, then click back on your browser to return to the images. Apologies and hope that helps!

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            Latoya Saum
            March 9, 2017 at 2:07 am

            Lovely post I like it particularly you are advising with respect to all basic issue to be thought in conspiring and setting up of a scene. For pond Pondpro2000 would one sure solution of leaks.

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